Enlarged enclosure

These large enclosures can be tricky and I find them hard to visualize. Please send a scan of the print page so that I can see the actual layout.

Thanks!

--Joanna

I apologize, but I must ask you to send this again. The image that's here is very small, blurred and impossible for me to read. These large enclosures can be complicated and I'm glad to help figure this one out, but I do need to be able to see it accurately.

Please send the complete print page so I can get an idea of the context and the purpose served by the enclosures. Please adjust your scanner settings so that the image is clear and not blurred.

Thanks!

--Joanna

MUCH better. Thank you so much for taking the extra time and trouble. I can see this is a complicated page without a quick answer. I ask for your patience while I analyze this. I will proably also be asking others for opinions on this as well, so that we can provide you with the best answer we can.

--Joanna

Yes you are right. Each of the 5 words on the left can begin any of the sentences on the right. It is the reason why I was initially thinking of writing the 5 words separated by semi-colon and between parentheses, followed by a double dash, followed on the line below by the list of 4 sentences. I would explain it in a transcriber's note.

These enlarged enclosures can be very tricky and I'm glad that I've asked for your help!

Thank you very much
Isabelle

Hi Isabelle,

Thanks for your patience. I asked the Braille Formats/Textbook committee for an opinion, since this is actually a formats problem, as it turns out. Foreign language braille rules regarding large enclosures are determined by Braille Formats. There is clearly no specific rule for this, so we offer a recommendation that we feel provides clarity to the reader and gives an accurate representation of the print as much as possible.

The problem here is that these enclosures indicate that EACH of the items on one side can be joined to ANY of the items on the other. This is a pure visual representation. I recommend that we simply tell the reader what's going on here because there is no rule for it in braille.

TNThe following list of words is printed within a right-facing large enclosureTN

Quand (1-3)
Lorsque,
etc.

TNThe following list of phrases is printed opposite the list of words above within a left facing large enclosureTN

j’aurai lu mon courier, etc. (1-3)
son père, etc

The braille reader now know what the sighted readers are seeing. What this MEANS is a teacher/instructional issue. The other students, who can SEE it, are probably wondering the same thing!

We hope this helps.

--Joanna

It just keeps coming! Here's another great suggestion from the Foreign Language Braille Committee. I notice that all the suggestions are different from each other, but they all refer back to the Formats rule about large enclosures. I think this showsn that while there may not always be a specific rule about the print situation, the best way to proceed is to USE the rules to create good solutions.

This latest solution comes with its own TN. It uses separate lists modeled on the procedures for large enclosures.

--Joanna