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July 11, 2013 at 11:20 pm #11451omh847Participant
Our group had a discussion this morning about how the word al-Qaeda is brailled. Is the 'ae' considered a dipthong? Or do we use the 'ed' contraction? We were unable to find this word in our dictionarys.
Thank you for your assistance.July 15, 2013 at 12:24 pm #22099AnonymousInactiveWhat type of book does this appear in?
What rule reference have you used for the rest of the formatting of this book?July 15, 2013 at 3:05 pm #22100omh847ParticipantHi,
This is for Literary Braille.
The book is a novel. This is the first time it has come up in this book and we have searched through our instruction manual and EBAE. Our dictionary: (Merriam Webster's 10th edition Collegiate Dictionary)
Thanks againJuly 15, 2013 at 3:34 pm #22096AnonymousInactiveThe internet can be an excellent resource for things like this.
Here is the pronunciation according to Wikipedia: Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə/ al-KY-dəIn EBAE - RULE X — GENERAL USE OF CONTRACTIONS
34. General Rules Governing Part-Word Contractions: Contractions forming parts of
words [u]should not be used where they would obscure the recognition or pronunciation[/u] of a
word.I was always taught: "When in doubt - spell it out"
August 23, 2013 at 4:56 pm #22101omh847ParticipantHello,
This week another question was raised about the same word al-Qaeda in the same book as described in July. We have not been using a letter sign before the al since it is connected to the word Qaeda by a hyphen and does not seem to be easily confused with the word also or the proper name Al, even when used at the beginning of a sentence. We have been using the EBAE 1994 and the Update 2007 Rule II 12.a(3)as well as the Instruction Manual for Braille Transcribing Fifth Edition 2009 Lesson 12.2. The question was raised about whether or not to use the letter sign before the al after reviewing the Lesson 12 Drill #31 Sentence 11 which is worded: 11. We read about Haroun-al-Raschid in the Arabian Nights Tales. In this Drill, the letter sign is used before the al. We are confused. Have we been brailling this correctly without the letter sign?
Thank you for your assistance.September 1, 2013 at 6:14 pm #22102omh847ParticipantSo sorry for the delay in responding - I didn't see the additional question posted.
I understand your rationale that it's clear that al is not being read as also-Qaeda, however that is making an assumption that the reader is familiar with the word. If this is a new word for the reader, they would have no way of knowing what is correct or not. Using the letter indicator takes away any potential doubt.
Since al is the short-form for also and short form words are used in contact with hyphens - technically the letter indicator should be used.September 1, 2013 at 9:40 pm #22097AnonymousInactiveThank you for clarifying this for us. The corrections won't be a problem (thank goodness we're on the computer and not still on the Perkins). Hope this didn't interrupt your holiday.
edited by omh847 on 9/1/2013September 1, 2013 at 9:44 pm #22098AnonymousInactiveNo problem. Glad I could help.
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