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  • #40313
    Julie Sumwalt
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    Hi,

    Would the (st) contraction be used in "Kingston", or the (sh) contraction be used in "Wilhelmshaven"? I'm guessing yes for Kingston and no for Wilhelmshaven, but I would like confirmation or correction.

    Julie

    #40314

    Hi Julie,

    Yes you can use the st contraction in Kingston and sh contraction in Wilhelmshaven.

    (ICEB) Rule 10.4.1 use the strong groupsign wherever the letters it represents occur unless other rules limit its use.

    Page 109-111 (ICEB)

    #40316
    Julie Sumwalt
    Participant

    What about 10.11.12, about the aspirated h? I assume "Wilhelmshaven" is not pronounced "--shaven".

    Julie

    #40407
    Julie Sumwalt
    Participant

    What do you think of my question on "Wilhelmshaven"?

    Julie

    #40436
    Julie Sumwalt
    Participant

    Hi,

    I'm still wondering about contracting "Wilhelmshaven". I assume it's pronounced "Wil-helms-haven" or "Wil-elms-haven", which would mean the (sh) contraction would not be used. Can you confirm or explain?

    Julie

    #40441
    JanaBrailles
    Moderator

    Hi Julie,

    Sorry for the delay. Notifications apparently are not working for me and Angela has been offline with some medical issues.

    In digging a little deeper into this matter, I went and found the name Wilhelmshaven, which is a town in Germany. I found a number of listings for American pronunciation of this word, and it sounds like  vil·helmz·haa·fn. According to RUEB, 2nd Edition, 2013, ForeignLanguage, Rule 13.2.3: Use UEB contrcations in words, phrases, proper names and personal titles which are regarded as anglicised. However, do not use a contraction that would unduly distort the pronunciation or structure of a word.  This rule seems to contradict itself, so I would be inclined to use the contraction. Of course there is always, "when in doubt, don't contract."  I suppose if I was brailling this for a student, the student would understand the word either way: with the "sh" contracted or left uncontracted. Not sure if this is helpful to you or not.

    Jana

    #40496
    Julie Sumwalt
    Participant

    And apologies for *my delay! Thank you for the answer. At least I know I'm not the only one who's confused!

    Julie

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