betty.marshall
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I have had to confer with other committee members on this question.
In the first example you have given, the system of equations is not aligned in print. Although the equal signs are aligned, the variable "x" is not aligned in the two equations.
I would left align in cell 3 as you have shown on the solution at the left side of the page.
In the second example, the variables again are not aligned in print (only the equal signs are aligned). This solution is correct as you have shown it.
Because the questions (in both of the examples you have used) say that these are a "system of equations", they must be preceeded and followed by a blank line. Although this is not clearly stated in the code book, the errata for the Nemeth lessons has updated §181 c. (1) Ununified System of Equations to say that "… the arrangement is considered to be spatial and blank lines must be left above and below it."Is the boldface type really necessary to the understanding of the equation? The surrounding text may shed further light on the matter, but it doesn't seem to me that there is any mathematical significance to its use.
If you were to use the boldface indicator, then you must use the letter sign, which would be contrary to the usual use of the letter sign with Roman Numerals. I think that I may be inclined to use a TN to indicate that the IX in MDIX and the 10-1 are bolded in print, rather than clutter the math expression.
BettyThank you for posting the example for me to view. I now understand that following the instructions in 5/3 you want to insert a TN rather than create a tactile graphic, and then proceed with the itemized material. The transcriber's note would begin in cell 7 with runovers in cell 5. The format for a transcriber's note is [u]not[/u] based on the material which preceeds it. So to answer your question, no, the transcriber's note is not indented 7 cells from the previous line -- it begins [u]in[/u] cell 7.
I hope this clarifies things for you.
BettyI am sorry if my question was misleading. I have included a copy of the print page. I am not trying to put a note in the middle of the directions. It is a note that takes the place of the figure. Ex: Use the following figure to answer question 1. A note is put here that says: The following elements are found in the first column of the periodic table... I then fo on to braille the element information in list format.
Thank you.Good work! Our best friend and constant companion when transcribing should be our code books. I love it when people dig a little deeper and find solutions for their questions! The Five-Step Rule is indeed the direction in which I would have pointed you.
Betty
It is important here to align the answers for each choice as they are in print, because they are meant to represent what is displayed in each quadrant of the graphic. They are not a table, and I don't think that enlarged braces are necessary either. The question could be placed in 1/5 with the letter for each answer choice in cell 3. Immediately following each lettered item, you could place the expressions in cell 5 over 2 lines maintaining the same alignment and position as shown in print. No blank lines would be required between any of the answer choices.
I've mulled over this for some time and also consulted with others. You are correct that parts of this must be shown as special material with a blank line before and after, and with the signs of operation and comparison aligned for computation. Remember that the spatial portion of the expression does not require the use of the numeric indicator. The color is usually disregarded. The text shown in italics (to the right of the expressions) are what we call "author comments". They are usually brailled on the same line following the expression to which they refer. Transcribers often enclose these remarks within parentheses. An explanation should be included on the transcriber's note page of how these are handled in braille. I think this is the best solution, however it is not the only one. Some transcriber's take these comments to a new line. Others key them when they will not fit on the line.
I cannot point you to a rule for this type of format, and the opinions vary of how it should be done. Once you have established a format, just be consistent with it!
Hope this helps.
BettyHi Rose,
This is challenging stuff you are working on!
My understanding is that if your primary code is Nemeth, then you would indicate where you are where you begin and end Computer Braille Code. Since you have indicated the end of Computer Braille Code, the logical assumption is that you have returned to the primary code, and there is therefore no need to use the begin and end Nemeth Code indicators. I think that pg 39 of the Computer Braille Code Revised 2000, is referring to when the primary code is English Braille.
Hope this helps,
BettyIt seems that neither Braille Formats, nor the Nemeth Code have definitive rules regarding this type of situation. Transcriber preferences in this regard also differ. They seem to agree that a blank line is required before and after, but some feel that the "list" should be indented to the position of the question runover (cell 5/7 for question1 above, and 3/5 for question 2) while others feel they should all be shown at the margin in 1/3. Be sure to check with the agency for whom you are transcribing first, but otherwise, just be consistent throughout the transcription with whatever decision you make.
Betty
[quote=betty.marshall]Hi Susan
I personally believe that these examples should be shown in braille as a tactile graphic. I will also attach a suggestion made in the Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics, where these arrows are used in conjunction with a number line. Whether their purpose is to indicate the decimal movement, or whether it is to indicate skip counting on a number line, I do not think that a transcriber's note or braille indicators adequately show the concept being taught in print.
Betty[/quote]Thank you for posting an example for us to refer to. My personal preference is to show bulleted items in list format preceded and followed by a blank line. However, since I have seen other transcribers display this type of material, I would like to consult with other committee members before giving you a definite answer. Thanks for your patience.
BettyIt really depends on how much technical material there is in the book. It would seem likely, to me, that there would be numerous instances of mathematics symbols at this grade level. However, if there are very few, the book could be done in literary code. Any technical (mathematical) material for which there are no symbols in literary code or Braille Formats would be transcribed in Nemeth Code with appropriate transcriber notes to alert the reader. and the Nemeth symbols listed on either the special symbols page, or at the point where they occur.
Hope this helps you to decide.
BettyI would agree with the previous post in saying that the Greek letter would be used in this expression.
Betty
