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Hi Cindy, I'm just on my way out of town, so I'll get back to you on Monday with an answer. Sorry for the delay.
BettyHi Susan,
You are correct. It was in a BANA press release from April 2014. I'll quote and then add the link below it.Approved a recommendation from the Tactile Graphics Technical Committee that any braille volume containing one or more tactile graphics should contain a note on the Transcriber's Notes page stating: "The Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics, 2010 was used in the preparation of the tactile graphics."
http://www.brailleauthority.org/pressreleases/pr-2014-4.html
Hope this helps ...
BettyI'm sorry. I meant I cannot make smooth lines, not straight lines. As I said, I use Word's Draw toolbar and Braille2000 text. I couldn't find any kind of pattern that even looked close to the 5 dots in Example 10 of the Supplemental Volume. Does anyone have any sources of training for the Tiger embosser? What program(s) does Debbie Holiday use? Maybe that's my problem.
Thanks,
SusieThanks, Betty,
Is there anyway Debbie Holiday would be able to communicate directly with me about how to produce the grid and pattern? I cannot download either of the .prn files. I use the Tiger embosser with graphics produced through Word's Draw toolbar but I've never been able to produce such straight lines and I don't know how to manually omit every other dot.
It would be a great help if I could learn some more skills with the Tiger.
Thanks again.
SusieGlad that you found the example in the Supplement to the Guidelines. That is exactly what I was going to refer you to. I know who created the original, so I will ask what was used and let you know. Hopefully I can get a reply though its the weekend.
BettyBetty, thank you for the information. Would you happen to know the Richo Model number that you are using?
Julie, Thanks for your input also. Which HP LaserJet model are you using?I've been using an HP LaserJet wide format printer. Yes, the "straight through" path is important.
Julie
Interesting. I'm borrowing a tablet and so far it seems to require far more artistic ability and a steadier hand than I could ever hope to have, but wondered if that was just a matter of getting used to it. Thanks for responding; I hope others do, too. I'm curious.
Our office used the Wacom Tablet for a while. You have to be sure and get a fairly large one. I personally found (since I use the right-click of the mouse for so many things) that it was more difficult to use the right-click on the pen (or stylus) on a tablet. None of our staff ever got used to them, so we disposed of all of them. Perhaps others have been more successful.
Betty
edited by betty.marshall on 12/17/2014Hi Susan.
I cannot imagine that you would consider doing these as a tactile, so you would follow Nemeth rules. In my opinion, since the dollar sign is included inside the width of the separation line in a Nemeth spatial arrangement, I would also include the cents sign (in a similar manner), and without a space between the number and cents. If you wish, you could re-post under the Nemeth section, just to make sure!
BettyI'm sorry Susan, but I have never seen anything like this. Perhaps from other worksheets you assume these are tens and ones? The T could stand for "Total", could it not? And are those tally marks, or could they be tens (rods) from a manipulative set? It looks like the squares (100's or flats in manipulatives)have half of them shaded.
I'm afraid that I have more questions than answers!!
Is there anyone else out there that has seen these and can interpret their meaning, or tell us how you have transcribed them? Please feel free to post any helpful suggestions.
BettyHi Susan
When the raised dots are added to the blocks of one hundred on page 6-69 of the Guidelines, they are being used to replace the shading. In your example, since there is no shading, the dots within individual squares would not be added. From both the crossed-out print directions, and from the teacher's handwriten questions, I would say that the student is not counting individual little blocks, but is counting 2 hundreds blocks (or flats), 6 tens blocks (or rods) and 2 (or is it 3??)ones units. On page 6-66 under Kindergarten through grade 3, the Guidelines say that "Groups of blocks must be grouped just as they are grouped in print, ...". I don't think that any of the students are being asked to count out 263 individual blocks--in fact, the sighted studenta don't have the lines to enable them to count them that way. I believe in this case, you should follow print and show the outlined shape, but enlarged appropriately so that the indiviual ones are no smaller than 3/8 inch (1 cm) and the rest drawn proportionalately. That is, the rods should be 10 cm by 1 cm and spaced 3-6 mm apart from each other. The flats would be 10 cm by 10 cm in the braille tactile. Unless the teacher has specifically said that she wants this worksheet shown with the inner dashed lines added, you should follow print. The student will likely be working with classroom manipulatives and they would match what you have drawn in the tactile.
Hope this helps. I have usually seen these in print with the "inner" lines shown for each unit, in which case I would reproduce them on the tactile graphic.
BettyThe key should be be formatted the same as the rest of the transcription--double-spaced, and uncontracted. There will be no need to add extra lines where the texture symbols occur as they already take two lines. However, the alphabetic key would be double spaced. If it is only 1 page long, it will be a left-hand page facing the tactile graphic on the right. However, if the key becomes more than one page then you would need to follow the Exception rule 5.8.3.3 whereby the tactile graphic is placed on the left side, with the key following, all as right-hand pages.
Hope this is clear enough. See also the example on page 5-31 of Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics.
BettyI would suggest that it is because of the settings on their Tiger embosser. This looks fine to me, but I only feed one page at a time (rather than tracter feed), and I move the sheet over to the right (see attached photo of position) rather than at the suggested margin to make mine work. Having said that (and I know it works fine for me), I know that some agencies insist that the CorelDRAW file be in portait mode.
The agency for whom you are doing the work should give you the specs that they require for tactile graphics.
If anyone else has encountered this situation, please feel free to add your comments/suggestions![quote=dspence]I know you posted this question months ago and the delayed response may be too late for your current transcription but I do have somthing to add to what Lindy said from the Math perspective. In sections 6.5.1.10 of the TG Guidelines there is a hierarchy for accommodating a long number line so that it will fit on one line and not have runovers. One of the options is to rotate the number line into a vertical position. I think this is the only place in the document that discusses vertical number lines other than the information about brailling box and whisker plots. When you have a vertical presentation of a number line there is no mention of including numeric indicators. The vertical number line should be brailled just as you would a horizontal number line, without the numeric indicators.
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The numbers on the right, which would be under the number line if it were horizontal, would be brailled without the numeric indicators, but wouldn't the numbers on the left, which would be above the number line in a horizontal number line, be brailled with the numeric indicator?
