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This is an adult book about nutrition. There is a chart that I'm brailling in outline format that shows how many times per day children, teens and adults should eat grains, veggies, fruits, etc. So 3/day, 4-5/day, 2+/day appears many times. They are listed and are not in complete sentences. The instruction manual for transcribing uses a letter sign for $2/gal and the NBA bulletin uses a letter sign with $3/qt. The very wise sage I rely on says the letter sign is not needed for this situation, but I'm searching for better guidelines on when a letter sign is needed after a slash which follows a number.
Chris ClemensKeymasterBefore I answer this, can you please tell me what type of book this is in and would it be possible to upload a copy of the page this appears on.
Thank you
SaralynChris ClemensKeymasterThis looks like it's a question that should be posted in Tactile Graphics.
--Joanna
Chris ClemensKeymasterThere are 2 different examples attached. This is what we usually get here as far as exercise questions.
ThanksChris ClemensKeymasterPlease send a print page. I have to see exactly how this looks in print.
Thanks.
--Joanna
Chris ClemensKeymasterThis is going to take me some time to get through but I will post the answers when I get them.
Chris ClemensKeymasterOOOOps.....forgot to attach the pdf...see new post
Chris ClemensKeymasterHi Susan,
It is true that the Interim Manual will soon be replaced with BANA Foreign Language Guidelines. That puts us in a rather awkward spot for the moment. The final BANA document is currently in the final editing process and I have to tell you that the editor is me! After is it complete, it goes to BANA Publications, where it will be finalized and undergo a final review process.
You are doing exactly the right thing by using the new Braille Formats. Use that in conjunction with the present Interim Manual, which is available to you for the member price. It is still highly useful and should be used for issues unique to foreign language. You will find that most of the formatting in it refers you to the current version of Braille Formats--and that means use the new one. The actual symbols for accented letters will not be changing, so the Interim Manual is still absolutely valid for that and will remain so. The only real changes are in formatting. If you get to a formatting situation that you feel is not adquately handled in the Interim Manual and unclear or also not adequate in Braille Formats, please post that problem at this forum and we will be glad to offer a solution. There are some things that are simply not handled at all in the Interim Manual that will be in the new BANA Foreign Language Guidelines. I am authorized to advise of anything applicable in the new Foreign Language Guidelines. It's just that the print document itself is not yet ready for distribution.
--Joanna
Chris ClemensKeymasterThank you so much for getting back to me. There is an extensive back matter with a Standard Library. They do list all of the terms that are in a special typeface in the back. I did go ahead and put those in embedded CBC whenever I ran across them. The difference in print is so faint that sometimes it is hard to tell. I did keep the italics as italics and not enclose in CBC. It can be several times in a paragraph so I just wasn't sure if I should open and close all of them. That helps tremendously. Thank You Cindy
Chris ClemensKeymasterI think you would get a much better answer if you posted this on the Math, Science, and Computer forum. I have to look up everything I do for a book in computerese.
Chris ClemensKeymasterIN the page I attached, it talks about STEP, and #define. I think these are all computer lingo that need to be embedded but am not certain. Thanks
Chris ClemensKeymasterHi, I am wondering if you missed my post since I have not heard anything. There are two of us who need to get the first part of the books to the student by the beginning of September; and I hate to chance doing the wrong thing with the embedded code. My thought is that some of the computer lingo is in a different type and is also used in some of the displayed computer portions, so those probably need to be embedded as computer code. I have gone over old NBA courses and that is the way it looks but wanted to get your opinion on it. Thanks!!
Chris ClemensKeymasterYou do not use print page numbers in literary. This client is asking
me to braille this book according to textbook rules. I need to know
how to braille words that are divided "in print" across two pages. Do
I maintain the integrity of the print and braille the word as I find it
in print, or make the word whole on one of the two pages.Chris ClemensKeymasterThanks, Diane. It's a mess!
Chris ClemensKeymasterAs a transcriber, our job is to faithfully represent the print copy according the rules of our braille codes. The rules regarding fractions (use/non-use of fraction indicators) are clearly stated in the Nemeth Code. If your print copy shows a diagonal fraction line and the numerals are printed on the base-line of writing and are not smaller than the surrounding mathematical text, we have a rule to follow:
NC Rule XII (Fractions), Section 63 (Non-Use of Simple-Fraction Indicators), subsection b states it this way (I added the emphasis):
"Simple-fraction indicators must *not be used to enclose a *simple fraction whose numerator and denominator are separated by a *diagonal line in ink print when the expressions on either side of the diagonal line appear at the *same *level relative to it, or are of the *same *type *size as the surrounding mathematical text. ... It is better to avoid the use of indicators altogether in these cases and permit the braille reader to make a judgment based on the same information that is available to the sighted reader."
Regarding the spacing, use the same spacing shown in the print copy *UNLESS* ... If this is a mixed number then follow Section 64 (and Sec.64.a) of the Nemeth code and show the fraction to be the fractional part of a mixed number (unspaced, preceded and followed by the appropriate opening and closing indicators). By looking at the context of the problem, you should be able to determine if this unusual print presentation is actually a mixed number.
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