claurent
Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
According to BF 16.8.2 you would put them in 7-5. I can see how this might be confusing to a reader - you could always separate them from the table by adding blank lines before and after the note (this would require a TN). Putting them before the table really isn't helpful either as it can be difficult to know exactly which note goes with which word (unless they are numbered/lettered?).
Cindi
It would be helpful to know what braille format you are using...
Just looking at the print, I would say it is probably some type of list format...where the braille reader would most likely start at the margin to find something rather than "glancing" around. I can see no reason why the passage indicators should not be used...
Cindi
I'll assume you are doing stairstep format here. Each item in this example (referring to the 3 items in "Notation" in the fourth row) would begin in cell 5.
Cindi
Julie - sorry that there has been no answer here. We are currently without a UEB chair 🙁
- No - you cannot contract was next to the open quote mark.
- No - same
- Yes, you can contract the en
Cindi
Formats does not directly address this. My suggestion would be to make your identifier say something like: "Print shows 4 photographs: Cabot Tower, Signal Hill, St. John's; hand-made moccasins from Hopedale; painted mailbox; ..."
By adding in the the number of photos there is no confusion about how many separate photos there are.
Cindi
Without seeing the print: it sounds like the words following "see also" are bold because they are entry words...in which case you do not need to retain the emphasis...just as you did not retain the emphasis for the "main" entry words.
Cindi
Is this found in the margin of the book? It almost looks like a cross reference (go somewhere else in the book and do this). Without seeing the whole page I would suggest that Connection be in cell 7 and the body text be blocked in cell 5 (per BF 9.6).
Cindi
After polling the committee, here is a suggestion: Make Conditional Mood (and other items like that) paragraph headings...use some kind of typeform indicator to make the "heading" stand out (since there is bold within the displayed phrases, use something different - I can't tell if they are colored in print but a transcriber-defined typeform would work). If you choose to do blocked paragraphs, a blank line would be required preceding it - since the entry word is a cell 5 heading, this would still be "under" the entry...and it leaves less confusion between that and the displayed material.
Hope this helps! I'd love a .pdf of this page to use for possible workshops in the future - this is certainly a challenge! Let me know how you decide to precede.
Cindi
The main entry words (such as MOOD) are cell 5 headings (as you said).
The definitions are 1-1 or 3-1 (as you said - just pick one and be consistent [I would do 1-1 but either is fine]).
The examples are displayed sentences...so blank line before/after and margins of 3-5 (see the rules for displayed sentences when there are more than 1).
When you get to the GENDER entry where there are "headings" my suggestion would be cell 7 headings for Masculine and Feminine with each example then starting in 3 with runovers in cell 5 (again using the displayed sentences rule in 9.2.2e).
Cindi
I think the color is unnecessary - it is either an entire entry or is separated from the rest of the text by some type of punctuation. so what you did seems good. Following that same reasoning, I would not keep the bold on Math Reasoning (as you did not keep the bold on Social Studies Connection).
The other thing I noticed was the dash before the first entry - STARTING THE UNIT. I believe that is just a stylized print line and would not consider that a dash.
It looks like you are considering the text at the bottom of the page a reference note. If you only keep the bold o the word Algebra within the text, it would follow the rules in Section of BF - and a TN is required stating that bold words have a reference at the end of the page.
I'm glad you find Ask An Expert to be a benefit! Thanks for posting.
Cindi
See page 44 of the Rules of UEB (section 4.2.1) where there is an example of this (about halfway down the page) - a transcriber-defined modifier is used.
Cindi
Question:
Subject: BF 2.10.2g (print identifier in TOC - chapter, lesson, etc.) and BF Sample 2-12
In BF Sample 2-12 the word CHAPTER is placed in cell 1 at the beginning of the TOC according to
BF 2.10.2g. If you were to braille the entire sample, would 2.10.2g also apply to the word APPENDIX
before the back matter entries? Would you place APPENDIX in cell 1 by itself and omit it before
individual entries, or would you retain APPENDIX before individual entries?Answer:
The same rule could be applied to Appendix. Pull it out and put it above the Appendix entries. If you don't, then the Chapter entry may appear to also apply to the Appendix entries.
Cindi
