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There is no requirement to put a TN on the TN page about this - but I do see it fairly often and, as a transcriber, we don't want the reader to think they are OUR mistakes 🙂
Examples of TN's I've seen: "Errors found in print are transcribed as presented." "In print, there are several [many, some, whatever is appropriate] errors. The braille is an exact representation of the print." "Print errors are not corrected by the transcriber."
Cindi
claurentParticipantThere is no TN under B in the braille...
I assume the TN on the TN page explains the parens around include as well...it's a little hard to tell from your notes above.
The basic exercise format is correct. As for the rest, there are no specific rules that apply, but I think you've come up with a workable solution applying the rules where you can and making modifications where there are no rules. Another suggestion (which would require a TN) is to use italics, bold or some type of grouping indicator for the letters within the answer word include.
Cindi
claurentParticipantI am not understanding what your question is...please clarify 🙂
Cindi
claurentParticipantFirst let me say that some disagree with me regarding using contractions in phonics (sounds). Or when print states that "letters" need to be underlined. I've been told by several readers that contractions ARE letters...and so the contractions are just fine. I think BF is not specific enough about SOUNDS that letters represent.
A couple things: I would recommend against keeping BOTH the bold and the underlining unless you really think they mean different things. BF and UEB both address the idea that transcriber's need to determine is there is meaning to both types of emphasis...to me it appears (from this one page) that the bold and the underlining represent the same thing and I would leave one of them off - it's pretty bulky with both 🙂
Under A, you need a blank line preceding the box. The directions in A apply to more than just the box.
Why did you change the table to a list? The directions specifically address the columns and if you make each column heading take two lines it easily fits across the page as it is in print. BF states that keeping the print format for columns/tables is preferred....unless they won't fit.
I argue with myself all the time when I do stuff like this. I almost think that Section 17 (Spelling) of BF should address letters rather than be so specific about spelling! The confusion, for me, is showing the letters (word parts) uncontracted and then showing the word contracted...it just seems like they should be treated the same way. As I said, people can (and will) argue for both ways. You just need to choose a way and then be consistent. I agree these are not spelling words...but we still need to be clear and consistent for the reader.
Under B. the items under 1 are answer choices (leg, hand, chin) and should be listed vertically per BF 10.4.4 I would also leave the underlined word (chin) in the sentence (follow print). A TN could be inserted somewhere that the first one is done for the reader.
This is hard stuff! Hope I've helped.
Cindi
claurentParticipantOther places to look: the definition of letters sequence, the standing alone rule, and this subject was discussed in a Bulletin article (page 41 of the Fall edition) if you want to look there.
Cindi
claurentParticipantThis question should be on the UEB Literary forum. However, I'll quote rule 10.9.3c dealing with words involving shortforms that do not appear on the list at the back of the code book: "Use the shortform for quick if it begins the word and is not followed by a vowel or a y." Then go to 10.12.12 which says that if punctuation, an indicator or a terminator occurs within a word, follow the basic contraction rules.
Cindi
claurentParticipantFollowing someone else's work can be challenging! Are the words hat, mittens, scarf, coat, etc in print? If they are part of the TN (in other words, they are naming pictures that are on the page) then the TN uses margins 7-5 and I could see why they might do the 'picture' in 7 with each 'label' in 5. They could also just be done as a run-on list: Pictures: hat, mittens, scarf, coat. If the actual words are in print, then the list is a better option. I would then suggest that the TN say "Pictures: listed below" and put the words at the margin. There is no specific rule about this. Choose a format and be consistent.
Cindi
claurentParticipantGot it! And yes, that is exactly right. The Appendix should not be pulled out as everything in the end matter does not apply to that "heading". Thanks for your persistance!
Cindi
claurentParticipantYour braille file didn't come through <sigh>. Can you try again? Maybe make it a .brf file?
Cindi
claurentParticipantYour braille file didn't come through <sigh>. Can you try again? Maybe make it a .brf file?
Cindi
claurentParticipantIt's not come through yet...? Cindi
claurentParticipantAh. You can send it to me personally at claurent@nationalbraille.org. I understand if you prefer not to do that though 🙂
Cindi
claurentParticipantIn the end matter itself or in the end matter part of the Contents? I agree with what you said but it's hard to be concrete in an answer without seeing the print :).
Cindi
claurentParticipantCan you send a picture of what you have? In the Formats example you attached, the 2nd page (which I think is what you are asking about) would still pull out the word Chapter. The brief contents is a separate item from the full contents so it is treated separately - although in this case, they are treated the same. On page viii the word Chapter would be at the top (cell 1), then "1 Thinking Critically..." would begin in cell 1, "What is Psychology" would begin in cell 3, and "Psychology's Roots" would begin in cell 5 with all runovers in cell 7. Does that help?
Cindi
claurentParticipantNot seeing the whole book, take what I say with a grain of salt 🙂
Just looking at this example: the underline used for the word at the end of the sentence should be omitted...it's a blank to be filled in and those are omitted per BF. The underlining within the first sentence is, or course, retained. I would contract everything because it is about the sound. A reader knows that the contraction ar stands for the two letters....if only ONE of the letters was to be circled, that would be different... I would also say that BF addresses words enclosed in shapes (use transcriber-defined typeform indicators). In this instance, I would NOT keep the circle, I would do a TN that says, "In the answer for the first sentence, the letters ar are circled" or maybe "The first sentence is done for you; the letters ar in artist are circled."
Cindi
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