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No. It's completely enclosed in grouping indicators.
Cindi
claurentParticipantYou should follow print and not put indentions into the TOC that do not appear in print. Using the TOC to determine heading levels in the text is sometimes very helpful and if there ARE indentions in the TOC and you have trouble discerning them, you could look to the text for clarification. But don't try to interpret text to input your TOC.
Cindi
May 3, 2024 at 9:15 pm in reply to: Utilizing the Nemeth Indicator in Number Lines and Dot Plots #42460claurentParticipantSorry! I read numeric indicator when you said Nemeth indicator! 🙂
Number lines are always done in Nemeth.
Cindi
May 3, 2024 at 5:22 pm in reply to: Utilizing the Nemeth Indicator in Number Lines and Dot Plots #42458claurentParticipantPer Unit 6 (it's stated in the intro among other places) of the Tactile Graphics guidelines, the numeric indicator is not used for labels in number lines and dot plots.
Cindi (for Lindy)
claurentParticipantQuestions about your manuscript cannot be answered on this forum. I would point you to section 1.11 of the Braille Formats guidelines (available as a free download from the BANA website at https://www.brailleauthority.org/braille-formats-principles-print-braille-transcription-2016) for more information on print page numbers.
Cindi
claurentParticipantStep 1, Step 2 is one list (unless they are separated by explanatory paragraphs). In the file you sent me, the entire thing should be 1-7, 3-7, 5-7. There is a "Rulings by Committee" document coming soon to BANA (it's approved, but not yet posted) that states the following:
- A heading must be followed by at least one complete list item (which may be more than one braille line) before the list is continued on a new braille page.
- 8.4.1c which says "Keep a columned list on a single page when possible" refers to multi-columned lists – not a single list. As per 8.3.5, a list may be divided between braille pages.
- Keep a multi-columned list on a single page when possible.
The hope is that this clarification will help make the list guidelines easier to understand and follow.
I do have a question - what is the symbol that uses dots 5, 146? If you are intending for that to be a checkmark (which is what I suspect), the UEB checkmark is dots 4, 146. It's an update that was made in April 2018 and can be found on the ICEB website at https://www.iceb.org/ueb.html.
Cindi
claurentParticipantThe teacher's reference page IS basically a print copy of the braille pages. According to Sample 2-1 of the Early Learning Guidelines, the notes used within the volume are listed on the Transcriber's Notes page.
The braille copies are NOT considered part of the Teacher's reference materials - they are part of the braille volume. The Teacher's reference materials are print pages.
Cindi
claurentParticipantIn print the symbol for factorial is the exclamation point. In braille it is dots 12346.
Cindi
claurentParticipantMaybe consider using an embedded transcribers note with the word "asterisk" after the symbol. That way you don't need the dot locator. If that won't work, then yes, do a "symbols used below..." TN.
Cindi
claurentParticipantYes. The TN is required for that as you noted.
Cindi
claurentParticipantGood morning! Omit the pictures of the pages from the text. A TN is not required, but it is ok if you feel one should be in there...something like "Print shows example pages from the text which correspond to the numbered paragraphs. These pictures are omitted."
Cindi
claurentParticipantFacing pages and vertical divisions are certainly acceptable options for a table of this size and complexity. I did find the TN a bit confusing. Consider a change to: "Table is split vertically into two parts and is read across facing pages."Â I also don't understand the sentence "Only the letters of locations are listed." Consider removing that sentence and saying something like "Letter locations found in print are used as the keys for row headings." You also don't need a blank line between the cell 7 heading and the TN.
This type of table is very hard to transcribe. I think you are well on the way to a good option.
Cindi
claurentParticipantThere is also a webinar from 2019 called <b>Proofreading—A PDF Way </b>that might help!
Cindi
claurentParticipantYes. The material on print page iii (The Units list) is a contents in brief. That should be in volume 1 in its entirety. Then you also would include the part of the full contents that actually occurs in volume ... likely not the whole first unit 🙂
The repeated contents should just occur in braille where they occur in print (BF 2.10.14). So say that Unit 1 ends on braille page 45 of braille volume 4. Start Unit 2 on a new braille page and begin with the contents as shown in print. I would say that you should then start the actual text of Unit 2 on a new braille page as well just to separate the different types of formatting as the contents entries will have line numbers and the text will not...but there isn't a rule about that 🙂
Cindi
claurentParticipantWhen you click on the arrow to the right of the printer name does it not bring up a menu with other options? That's where my choice to print to a pdf is. Normally, mine also shows my printer...but I can CHOOSE to change that to a pdf. Let me know. If you can't do this, we will work something else out.
Cindi
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