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  • in reply to: Variety of questions concerning formatting #31104
    claurent
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    • Is it ok to use contractions in a books printing history? Ex. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 DOW 16 15 14 13 12.

    May DOW be contracted?  Yes, contractions may be used.

    • BF 8.6.2b says the primary bullet is no longer required on the Special Symbols page. Is the bullet required as a SS when it is used as a separator dot in pronunciation? Ex. ethnic (EHTH●nihk)

    No, the dot is still not REQUIRED on the Special Symbols page.  It would be ok to include it if you think your reader might need that information.

    • BF Appendix G lists line mode indicators as required special symbols. Are special symbols for line mode necessary when they only occur in column headings (or note separation lines)? If so, would this require two symbols? Ex. "3 Horizontal line mode indicator; 3 Simple (solid single) horizontal line segment.

    No, if the only place you use the line mode is in column separation lines or as the footnote separation indicator, they are not required on the SS page.  Sorry for the confusion on that.

    • A text includes “21ST CENTURY SKILLS” – should the capital passage indicator be used following 21 (before the ordinal letters ST)? Can capitals be ignored for the ordinal letters (such as superscript is ignored) and capital word indicators used for CENTURY SKILLS?

    This is a good question!  I'll get back to you on this one 🙂

    • If a boxed table requires a TN (such as special symbols, or to explain guide dots in skeleton tables), does the TN have to go inside the box? Are there exceptions for placing a TN on the previous page to allow a box to fit on one braille page?

    Note: All BF Samples show TNs inside the box (with the exception of a table across facing pages). Also, BF 11.8.2c indicates a table key follows the top box line, but we’re not sure if this applies to all TNs associated with a table.

    There is no rule about where the TN's are to be placed.  It makes sense to put them inside the box if the material to which they apply is all inside the box.  I would say that if putting the TN on the previous page allows the box to fit on one page, you could move the TN...just be sure your TN accurate reflects what it applies to.

    • If material in a table of contents is boxed, and none of the boxed material has content entries with page numbers, can the text inside the box go on line 1 or 25 of the braille table of contents?

    Yes

    • BF 20.2.1c says to divide syllabified words that do not fit on one braille line at a syllable break. Is a line continuation indicator (dot 5) required when dividing pronunciations that won’t fit on one braille line? (such as dividing long numerals and electronic addresses)

    Is this a what if question?  Or do you have an actual example?  I'd like to see what you are referring to.

    Is the line continuation indicator a special symbol?

    Also a good question.  It is not on the list right now...but probably should be. 🙂

     

    Cindi

    in reply to: Braille Formats Certification #31089
    claurent
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    No. There is no time requirement. You just have to be literary certified to take the formats test. You should know, however, that we are currently not testing. We are in the process of writing tests and hope to have them done soon.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Page number for table of contents between volumes #31031
    claurent
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    You should list the page number you are starting with in that volume.  And insert (cont) after the entry.  So something like this:

    Chapter 3:  History (cont) ....... 4

     

    Cindi

    in reply to: Bible verse #31007
    claurent
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    According to 9.4 of BF, this type of attribution is blocked in the fifth cell to the right of the beginning of the previous line - so if you are doing a paragraph, the attribution would be blocked in cell 5.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Bible verse #31005
    claurent
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    I think the Bible as a whole is a mix of prose and poetry.  It depends a bit on how much you are doing, if the verse numbers are to be included, what it looks like in your print, etc.  If it is just the one verse you are showing (which appears to have been centered in print), I would say you should do it as a paragraph and put the verse reference as an attribution.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Navy Seals #30978
    claurent
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    I would say to use the ea contraction. 🙂

    Cindi

    in reply to: jihadists #30949
    claurent
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    According to the recently released "Braille Enthusiast's Dictionary" the "had" contraction cannot be used in "jihad" so I would say the same is true of "jihadists".

    Cindi

    in reply to: side-by-side text/even and odd print age numbers #30718
    claurent
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    With the footnote separation line and page numbers, the student could skip over the footnotes if they wanted.

    If you split them, how will the student know which volume has the appropriate note in it?  You would have to have very specific TN's on the TN pages.  My recommendation would be to braille all of the text in volumes 1-15 (say) and then the notes in 16-30 (or whatever) and then include TN's in the text volumes letting them know which volume(s) have the appropriate notes.

    I have done a book very similar to what you have there (it was Hamlet I think) and we did combined pages.

    Cindi

    in reply to: side-by-side text/even and odd print age numbers #30717
    claurent
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    With the footnote separation line and page numbers, the student could skip over the footnotes if they wanted.

    If you split them, how will the student know which volume has the appropriate note in it?  You would have to have very specific TN's on the TN pages.  My recommendation would be to braille all of the text in volumes 1-15 (say) and then the notes in 16-30 (or whatever) and then include TN's in the text volumes letting them know which volume(s) have the appropriate notes.

    I have done a book very similar to what you have there (it was Hamlet I think) and we did combined pages.

    Cindi

    in reply to: side-by-side text/even and odd print age numbers #30713
    claurent
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    Are you doing the notes as separate volumes?  I would have said that the two pages should be transcribed as combined pages (page 76-77, page a76-77, and so on) with the footnotes being at the end of the "set" of pages.

    Cindi

    in reply to: B.F. Section 13 (Poetry & Lyrics) Sample 13-2 #30686
    claurent
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    It is assumed that regular quotation marks were used in other places within that text.  We wanted to show the symbols for the single quotation marks and how they are used.

    Cindi

    in reply to: Animal Kingdoms #30685
    claurent
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    I apologize for the delay in responding.  I've been out of town dealing with a family issue...and I wanted to get some input from other experts!

    Here is the advice I got:

    The first one is a flowchart and should either be drawn (it would fit on two facing pages) or done according to the flowchart guidelines which can be found at http://www.brailleauthority.org/cbc/flowchart.html

    The second got some different options:  nested list, stairstep or other...explained below.

    Do the diagram at the top of the page as a tactile and then list each category with c5 or centered headings. Omit the pictures and just list the names of the animals. Add a tn explaining the listing of categories.

    Cindi

    in reply to: manual and format rules contradiction #30454
    claurent
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    I apologize for the delay in responding to this, I was trying to get a definitive answer from those involved in the certification process.  After checking around some, I've been told that if you follow Formats 2016 (and put that in your letter that goes with the manuscript), you would be fine.  Braille Formats 2016 says to use

    The End

    enclosed in TN indicators (so initial cap, not full caps).

    Cindi

    in reply to: UEB 7.5: Question Mark #30453
    claurent
    Participant

    I apologize for the delay in responding to this question...it really belongs on the UEB forum. I thought it was there :(.

    See 5.11 of the UEB code on use of grade 1 indicators in grade 1 text.  It does mention the question mark used in an unusual position (meaning a grade 1 indicator might be required for the question mark).  I think, as the transcriber, you need to decide if there is a chance that question mark could be read as anything else.  If there is a possibility it could, use a grade 1 indicator.  If not, no grade 1 indicator required. 🙂

    Cindi

    in reply to: Line numbered Model UN Resolution with blank lines #30294
    claurent
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    It IS unusual that the blank lines are numbered.  I suggest you treat it as numbered prose...with the numbers to the right of the braille page.  You will have to put the line numbers in yourself and not rely on your program to do it.  To my knowledge, there is no way to automate that function.  It will take extra time for sure!

    Cindi

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