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Do you mean a key as in
Key to table below:
an Annapolis
bl Baltimore
If that is what you are talking about then no, the key does not need the dot locator in front of it.
If you define a symbol or a typeform, such as
In the paragraph below [dots 4, 3456, 2] represents a highlighted word
Then yes, a dot locator would be required before that symbol. NOTE: I could not get the font to show the braille so I put dot numbers in.
Cindi
- This reply was modified 8 years, 2 months ago by claurent.
claurentParticipantThe arrow is not an arrow... It's just a visual separator. We both agree (the other person I asked and me) that we would use bold on "on your own" (to show distinction between that and the other part of the heading) and not include the arrow symbol at all.
Cindi
claurentParticipantWith the onset of UEB you should follow UEB rules. Just follow print. Remember that the numeric indicator must be repeated after the colon. Use whatever print uses: colons, hyphens, dashes (though I would say that verses are usually joined with hyphens and not dashes).
Cindi
claurentParticipantThere isn't a rule specific to Bible verses. What is your question about them?
Cindi
claurentParticipantThe following page has drawn much discussion and we at MBTF would like to know what correct way would you transcribe this page. There is not enough information in the format rules to really be accurate. Or we could be over thinking, either way, your assistance would be helpful because it becomes a teaching tool for others to follow as oppose to doing this any kind of way. Would you treat the [Strophe 1] and [Antistrophe 1] as stage directions, or would you place them in verse form and treat the entire text as 1/5, 3/5 with blank lines between them? Or would you treat them as headings considering that they apply to the text? Your insight would be helpful, or if you have proper examples, could you please send them. Thank you.
I restated your question and attached a picture so others can see what the question refers to 🙂
I googled Strophe and Antistrophe. They relate to an Ancient Greek chorus (which makes sense since this is an Ode). My suggestion is to do the Ode as a centered heading, Chorus as a cell 5 heading and Strophe and Antistrophe as cell 7 headings. This would accurately reflect the print.
Cindi
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You must be logged in to view attached files.claurentParticipantI agree with what you suggest for the first part of the form (follow the text with the underscore).
Do the form as nested list...1-5, 3-5. That allows for Disabled to be at the margin and Yes/No to begin in cell 3.
As for the squares...I suggest that you use a full cell to represent each square and put a TN before the beginning of the form to let the reader know about the change to print. The UEB square symbols WOULD follow print, but, as you said, would be very cumbersome to read.
Cindi
claurentParticipantAfter polling others on the Formats committee: Formats requires the website, not the email address. We are agreed that the email address would not take the place of the website. So no, do not include the email address as noted above.
Cindi
claurentParticipantPoetry format is 1-3 or 1-5, 3-5. In your first example, you would do the poem with 1-3 margins. In the second example, the only question would be whether or not that indention on the first line represents a pattern (for instance, is every other line indented to 3?). If there is no pattern, than the same 1-3 margins should be used.
Cindi
claurentParticipantYou are correct that UEB has a technical code...and that's the better way to go...if you are doing a book in literary, use the UEB symbols.
Also, as I am thinking, I believe we took that whole "partially technical works" out of the updated formats document as well...which would lend itself to the answer that if the entire book is not done in Nemeth, then the UEB technical materials should be used.
So thanks for following up...sometimes my quick answers aren't the right ones!
If you need help transcribing using the UEB technical materials, contact me offline.
Sorry to be confusing..
Cindi
- This reply was modified 8 years, 3 months ago by claurent.
claurentParticipantSure, anything is possible. However, the context of this usage would make it clear for the reader.
Cindi
claurentParticipantI believe the best way to represent this table is as you have suggested: Using column 1 as a cell 5 heading and using three dots 5s to represent the blank entries. In table A, the repeated headings should make things clear enough.
In table B, you could put a transcriber's note as the column heading for the column that has no print heading: TNColumn 6TN. This would provide some extra clarity. Basically you would treat it as an embedded transcriber's note.
Cindi
claurentParticipantThere are no formal decisions regarding this. Some agencies are following formats (directions 5/5) when doing UEB Technical Materials. Some are following Nemeth formats (directions 5/3). I think the recommendation will be that if you are NOT doing Nemeth, you would NOT follow Nemeth formats. Sorry I don't have a more definite answer on this one.
Cindi
claurentParticipantAfter much discussion, this decision has been changed. Follow the UEB rules for grade 1 indicators...meaning that ax (continued page x) does not need any grade 1 indicators.
Cindi
claurentParticipantAccording to 10.6.1 of the UEB code, the 'be' contraction can be used when the letters it represents form the first syllable of a word. According to 10.6.2, 'be' can be used when it is at the beginning of a word and followed by a letter, contraction, modified letter or ligature. The letters 'Be' form the first syllable of Beowulf, begin the word and are followed by a letter. So yes, you can use 'be' in 'Beowulf". If pronunciation is your concern, in 10.6.2, the 'be' contraction is used in the word Belinda which has the same beginning sound (at least to me) of Beowulf.
Cindi
claurentParticipantIf you are doing textbook braille, the braille pages go on the bottom right. The top right was a literary braille thing...most books are done in textbook braille using Braille Formats now.
Cindi
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