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Sorry for the delay in responding - I wanted to poll the rest of the committee.
Our suggestion is to draw this.
If that isn't possible, then repeat the names and do a transcriber's note to explain that those names represent the same people...so there is no confusion that they might just be different people with the same names.
Cindi
claurentParticipantsorry - I tried to upload the wrong file. Attached is the correct file.
Cindi
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You must be logged in to view attached files.claurentParticipantThe updated Formats document will address this.
First, follow print for placement of the arrows - above or below the sentence. If the arrows are inconsistently placed in print, it is suggested that they all be treated the same in braille with a TN stating this change.
I'm attaching the correct braille.
The arrow mode indicator (dots 1245) is followed by the arrowhead (dots 135). So in the example of the right pointing arrow, line mode is used first...a dot 5 followed by dots 25 for the length of the arrow. The line (arrow shaft) is then followed by the arrowhead. Line mode starts grade 1 mode so no grade 1 indicator is required.
In the second example, the arrowhead comes first, so a grade 1 indicator is required. Then the arrow shaft indicator is used.
Cindi
claurentParticipantI asked a couple of other experts ... and here is what I've gathered.
1.5 Typeforms [UEB manual] says: <br clear="none" />In mathematics, algebraic letters are frequently italicised as a distinction from ordinary text. It is generally not necessary to indicate this in braille. However, when bold or other typeface is used to distinguish different types of mathematical letters or signs from ordinary algebraic letters, e.g. for vectors or matrices, this distinction should be retained in braille by using the appropriate typeform indicator. See Section 2.7 for the emphasis of individual digits within numbers.
We would take this to mean that just as bold is required to be retained for vectors, the italics should be retained for scalars...but is not required on other letters. If you cannot tell which letters ARE scalars (I, for instance, might find that difficult), I would ignore the italics on all letters and put a TN under the statement in the physics book (as you suggested above).
Cindi
claurentParticipantSorry for the delay in responding...I was on vacation 🙂
No, the list posted above is not in braille order.
Cindi
claurentParticipantWith the implementation of UEB, we are following print. So in this case you would use a dot five at the end of each Braille line to show that the web site continues. Put the page change indicator where it occurs in print. Do not split the web address between braille pages.
This will also apply to words split between print pages according to the updated Formats. You Should follow print.
claurentParticipantA couple options depending on how this material will be used.
If it's a consumable document for the student to write on, do a TN at the beginning of the section to say that on the rating scale, 1 is strongly disagree and 5 is strongly agree...then just include the numbers. You can do the numbers on one braille line with a blank cell between them.
If it's not consumable, you can still do a transcriber's note...but you could say that each question has a rating scale of 1-5 with 1 being strongly disagree and 5 being strong agree. Then you don't have to include the numbers.
Cindi
claurentParticipantWould you please post a scan of a page so I can see exactly what you are referring to?
Thanks!
claurentParticipantYou can handle that a couple of different ways: Do the whole table in Nemeth and uncontract the headings (row and column); do just the numbers in Nemeth (requiring the open/close on each number); or put an open Nemeth indicator on the first row of the table, do the rest of the table in Nemeth with no contractions and put a closing Nemeth indicator on the last row of the table (before the box line if there is one).
Cindi
claurentParticipantFormats does not directly address this issue. A poll of the Formats Committees I am associated with resulted in the answer that we would follow print and put in 1-3.
Cindi
claurentParticipantYou do not need to retain the arrow. Just put the words in. A suggestion: Do them in bold and put a TN on the TN page that says parts of some headings are enclosed in arrows in print. In Braille, those parts of the heading are in boldface. [Or something like that] If you already have bold in some parts of headings, use underlining or script.
Cindi
claurentParticipantYes.
The following symbols are required on the Special Symbols page if they are used within a braille volume. Each symbol is preceded by the Dot locator for "mention" which is the first symbol in the list.
Dot locator(s)
Arrow symbols (11.6)
Line mode indicators (16.2, 16.3)
Shapes (11.7)
Grouping indicators [braille grouping indicators, parentheses, braces, brackets, angle brackets] (7)
Typeform indicators (9)
Foreign language symbols (12)
Music symbols (3.18)
Modified letter indicators (4)
Shape indicators (11.7)
Math symbols (3.17, 3.24, 6, 11)
Currency symbols (3.10)
Ratio (3.17)
Proportion (3.17)
Prime (3.11, 3.15)
Double prime (3.11, 3.15)
Minutes (3.11)
Feet (3.15)
At sign (3.7)
Tilde (3.25)
Trademark and Registered Trademark (3.8)
Code Switch indicators (14)
The following symbols are new with the approval of UEB. These symbols may be included on the Special Symbols list, but are not required.
Ellipsis
Opening transcriber's note indicator
Closing transcriber's note indicator
Percent sign
Low line (underscore)
Grade 1 symbol indicator (new terminology, same symbol)
Single closing quotation mark
Capitalized passage indicator
Capitals mode terminator
Dash
Period, dot or decimal (6) [Only when used as a dot or decimal]
claurentParticipantAccording to the guidelines for using Nemeth in UEB, only the -3 must be in Nemeth. However, as the transcriber looking at the material, including the other 3 within the indicators (and using the switch on 'and') might be appropriate. It really depends on the context.
Cindi
claurentParticipantHere is how the braille should look:
You should use the macron symbol and put a TN before the entry stating that the macron is a free standing macron (and is not over the r). There really isn't a rule about this...though UEB does allow for free standing modifiers.
I suspect it is a print error...but you need to follow print anyway.
Cindi
claurentParticipantIs the line indicating an omitted letter? Could you send me a scan of the print page?
Cindi
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