[claurent]

I like your idea - a nested list is a good format for this type of material.

You could also just list them in 1-3. Put Cause then an arrow then Effect. This would save space and still get the point across - Cause leads to Effect.

Cindi

[claurent]

There are no guidelines that cover this. I agree that a list is the best option.

Cindi

[claurent]

Would it be possible to see what your print looks like? My initial reaction is to the do word list first and the descriptions second - regardless of how many pages it takes. Maybe include a TN that says that descriptions take __ pages. If you can't do them on facing pages, then you can't. I would not leave a blank left page (if that is the way I am reading your description above) just because the word list doesn't take two pages.

Cindi

[claurent]

I'm going to post this in both places you posted it.

Running footers are similar to what a Running head is. Something that gives the reader location information but is outside the regular flow of text. Guide word text - letting the reader know what is on that page - is a running footer. The sequentially numbered table labels are, in fact, running footers.

Cindi

PS - this definition is found in Appendix F in Braille Formats:

running footer: a word, phrase, or number that is repeated at the bottom of more than one print page

[claurent]

And this definition is found in Appendix F at the back of the Braille Formats book:

running footer: a word, phrase, or number that is repeated at the bottom of more than one print page

Cindi

[claurent]

I'm going to post this in both places you posted it.

Running footers are similar to what a Running head is. Something that gives the reader location information but is outside the regular flow of text. Guide word text - letting the reader know what is on that page - is a running footer. The sequentially numbered table labels are, in fact, running footers.

Cindi

[claurent]

You should leave the word as it is in print - hyphenated. Put three blank spaces after the hyphen to indicate the start of a new print line.

Cindi

[claurent]

It appears to me that the vertical bars are just a division of the * / * / or * / * symbols showing what is iambic pentameter and what is iambic tetrameter. And wow...what a challenging assignment!

I think you have to do whatever you think would make this the most understandable. Just insert well-worded transcriber's notes explaining your format. Putting spaces in where the vertical bars appear seems to me to be a good idea. To my knowledge, there are no guidelines in other documents. I assume you've scoured the rules on IPA...that would be my first suggestion.

Cindi

[claurent]

I'm going to answer this one as well as I feel like this is more formats than Nemeth. 🙂

I have seen this done a couple of other times. I have a couple of suggestions. First, I would not treat the answer boxes as Nemeth rectangles. They are not mathematical in nature, they are just answer blanks. Although there is no rule against using Nemeth rectangles...that's my opinion. For the answer boxes that have drop down choices: The way I've seen this done that I liked the best was to number the answer blanks (1 _ , 2 _, 3 _ and 4 _ [numbers and underscores in UEB] in this case) and then follow the question with a list of the answer choices. Of course, you would need a TN to explain the change to format (on the TN page as this happens throughout. If you don't have a TN page, put it before the first question of each worksheet set.

1.

less than 2.5%

between 2.5% and 16%

etc

2.

not possible

reasonable

 

Hope this helps!

Cindi

 

 

[claurent]

I'm going to answer this one as well as I feel like this is more formats than Nemeth. 🙂

I have seen this done a couple of other times. I have a couple of suggestions. First, I would not treat the answer boxes as Nemeth rectangles. They are not mathematical in nature, they are just answer blanks. Although there is no rule against using Nemeth rectangles...that's my opinion. For the answer boxes that have drop down choices: The way I've seen this done that I liked the best was to number the answer blanks (1 _ , 2 _, 3 _ and 4 _ [numbers and underscores in UEB] in this case) and then follow the question with a list of the answer choices. Of course, you would need a TN to explain the change to format (on the TN page as this happens throughout. If you don't have a TN page, put it before the first question of each worksheet set.

1.

less than 2.5%

between 2.5% and 16%

etc

2.

not possible

reasonable

 

Hope this helps!

Cindi

 

 

[claurent]

I'll go ahead and answer here (and there if you have re-posted it).

I think you have to do what you have to do to make the table understood. I applaud you for accurately saying "I want to apply all the rules I can" while still dealing with the material you have. BF can't address every situation and the intent is to ensure we are all doing our best to "apply all the rules we can". Be sure to write a careful transcriber's note to explain how you are changing the print format. I suggest having someone else read it over and see if it makes sense to them.

Cindi

[claurent]

Wow - what a challenge! Obviously, there are no specific rules that address this.

I can offer you two suggestions. Know that they are SUGGESTIONS and you don't have to use either option 🙂

I started with the philosophy that you didn't want to have to repeat the Remarks a lot.

Let me know what you think!

Cindi

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1. Section 6.2.2 (which talks about sources and illustrations) doesn't say anything about blank lines. As such, I went to Appendix C which says that blank lines follow source information - and it doesn't specify which type of source. So my answer, based on Appendix C, is yes, a blank line is required following the source.
2. The caption is good on this picture...but I would still include a TN that you are not including the information from the handbill. If there is any doubt that the information would be required for the reader, box it and attach the caption to the box. In this specific case, that might require the full cell outer box lines and individual boxes for the two types of information in print.

 

Cindi

[claurent]

The only thing specifically addressed in BF regarding blank lines is lists. However, it IS recommended (and the BANA formats committee is trying to make it part of an errata or update) that if something ends on line 24 or 25 that requires a blank line following it (like the box line you mentioned) that blank line is at the top of the next page.

Regarding lists: 8.3.4a says: Start the list on line 1 when a running head is not used, if there are two or more blank lines at the bottom of the previous page. Start the list on line 2 when braille is on the last or next-to-last line of the previous page.

Cindi

[claurent]

With double spacing you double the blank lines...so where there would be no blank lines, there is one. Where there would be one blank line, there is two.

Cindi

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