claurent
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I do not know of any courses currently available. I do believe there are some in the works. I would suggest you contact AER or one of the universities that teach braille to teachers. I know the universities have begun to teach it, but I do not know what curriculum they are using. I asked around a bit and could not find out anything else more specific. I will continue to look into this and let you know if I hear of anything. I do know that Hadley School for the Blind has some free courses aimed at teaching UEB to braille readers...but I do not know if that curriculum is available to teachers.
Cindi
Are you referencing a book that is teaching braille (the actual braille sign for ch) or are you referencing a book that is teaching grammar? In a grammar book, I would use the uncontracted letters ch as the heading. No grade 1 indicator required and no dot locator required. If this is a braille lesson and the braille sign for ch is being taught, I would do the ch uncontracted and then follow it with the contraction to demonstrate the concept.
Cindi
I'm standing in for Joanna for this one...Let's see if I can handle all your questions (I'm adding my own numbers for clarity):
1. I can't find the original question regarding marginal labels. It sounds like you have that right...if you still have questions about that can you please repost it - either here or on the UEB forum?
2. In regards to items listed on the symbols page of a UEB document, for the time being, we have been noting any character that may be new or unfamiliar to our customer base, including but
not limited to punctuation and indicators that have changed configurations and/or use, along with those that are currently listed based on EBAE and BF guidelines. Is this necessary or
should we just follow the general guidelines of unfamiliar or rarely used characters?ANSWER: I don't know if it's necessary, but it's probably helpful for the reader to list symbols that are unfamiliar to them. There will be a list of what symbols will be required on the Special Symbols page in the updated Formats book.
3. In the UEB sample documents listed below there is a note similar to “The Following Unified English Braille symbols are used in the instructions. This List is in braille order and each symbol is preceded by the dot locator .=.” which accompanies the symbols lists used in the document: Is this something that should be noted in documents to aid the braille reader during the transition period from EBAE to UEB or were these notes included as a courtesy in these particular example documents?
ANSWER: In the documents listed (I did not include your original list, but they can be found on the BANA website) the symbols statement you note was included as a courtesy. It is not a required statement. Again, listing symbols that might be new to a reader may be a good idea during the transition...but symbols such as the parentheses will not be REQUIRED on the Special Symbols Page.
4. It’s our understanding that the UEB Guidelines for Technical Material has not been adopted by the United States and that Nemeth code, or the Nemeth-based chemistry code, will continue to be used in formatting actual math and technical notation when applicable as outlined in the document Provisional Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts.
However, does this apply in a non-technical text where there is only sporadic math symbols or actual math problems like that outlined in BF §1.3?ANSWER: Math should be done using the provisional guidelines for Nemeth and UEB. If a literary text has simple math (like "the backyard is 32 ft2 [pretend that's a superscript!]), UEB symbols may be used. If there are calculations or higher level math, Nemeth should be used - basically the same as BF 2011. UEB was adopted as a whole code (this actually includes the Guidelines for Technical Materials). Section 11 has valid guidelines for doing math. The US agreed to keep Nemeth and we've adopted the Provisional Guidelines as a a way to do that. It's been agreed that higher level math will continue to be done using Nemeth.
If I didn't get all your questions, let me know!
Cindi Laurent
Sorry for the delay in answering, I've been away. I'm looking into this and will respond asap.
Cindi
Braille formats 2011 states: (1.15.3) "Foreign language words or phrases within an English language paragraph are contracted as though they are English. Use the dot 4 accent indicator for accented letters." With that I understand that now the accent indicator is to now follow the UEB rules. My confusion is, if the Formats Committee is recommending that foreign words within English text follow BF 2011 wouldn't that mean contractions are to be used with no further expectations of change? Are you possibly referring to a version of Braille Formats newer than BF 2011?
That's a great question! Three spaced initials are, technically, a passage. However, using the passage indicator and terminator would add extra cells. It would be best to single cap these spaced initials.
Cindi
1. The base reference indicator is not a UEB symbol and will be longer be used. Follow print for whatever symbol is used to indicate a footnote (superscripted numbers, daggers, asterisks, etc).
2. The BANA Formats Committee is recommending that the 7th transcriber-defined symbol indicator be used (dots 46, 3456, 1456) to indicate that a note is present. This is not yet approved by BANA. In the case you have sent, if all the highlighted words have footnotes, a transcriber's note could be inserted on the TN page stating that all the highlighted words have related footnotes which can be found at the bottom of the print page. The format for the notes themselves has not changed with UEB. You would then not need any other type of indicator. The highlighting should be shown using transcriber-defined typeform indciators (which would need to be shown on the Special Symbols page).
I am not certain I answered all your questions. If I missed something, please let me know.
Cindi
Aha! Thank you for clearing that up! If could ask one more quick question: What if the word were fine, instead of finances? Would you use the letter sign to differentiate the f from a 6? As in:
[simbraille]C3_*p]sonal_*#bjji;fine[/simbraille]
Or, if I have chosen a bad example, what would you do if the word's letters could be mistaken for a number but the grade 1 terminator would not save space? I tried to find an example of this in the UEB manual but, unfortunately, I am not as familiar with this manual as I would like to be, so I may have overlooked it.
Thanks,
WilliamThe reason for the grade 1 terminator for the example on page 54 is so that the contractions can be used in the word 'finances'. If you notice in the other two examples, no contractions are used after the numeric indicator.
The preferred method in transcribing things like this is the one that takes less space or makes reading easier. Using no contractions following the numeric indicator in shopping4you takes less space than inserting a terminator after the number and using contractions. In 4starhotel@webnet.com, either way (contracted or not) takes the same space. I think this method was chosen because the uncontracted word is easier to read than if a grade 1 terminator was used and then the contractions.
Cindi
edited by claurent on 3/10/2015The Australian course is a comprehensive course for those who don't know braille at all...and I found it to be a great refresher for myself (speaking as someone who already knew braille before taking the course). There are two Canadian courses - one for new transcribers and an update certification for those already certified in literary braille. The update course is just that, it looks only at those things that are different. Both courses have positive aspects. You will need to decide if they are worth taking for you. The NLS course for new transcribers is close to being ready...and I know NLS is also working on an update certification for those already certified. I do not know exactly when they will be available...asap is what I hear. 🙂
The next question might be, will agencies accept the Australian or Canada certifications? The answer is, ask the agencies you work for. They are not required to - though I have heard from those I work with that they will accept the Canadian or Australian certifications. Once the NLS certification is available, that may change. Each agency will have to decide that.
Cindi
1) I don't think there is a rule about this. I would say do not use the 'st' contraction as the 's' also applies to the tprs.
2) No, there are no reference indicators in UEB. I am assuming you have numbered footnotes (since you asked about numbered reference indicators). See Section 3.24 of the UEB codebook for how UEB handles numbered references. The footnotes themselves would still be at the bottom of the print page under the footnote separation line.
3) Yes
4)I would say yes as well...but you might want to post that part of the question on the FL ask an expert.
5) There are no Computer Braille Code Symbols in UEB. So you don't need anything on the Special Symbols page or the TN page.
6) Again, I would say yes...but that is also a question for the the FL folks. According to UEB, FL in an English context does NOT use contractions (see Section 13.2). I think your understanding of 13.6.6 is correct.
7) Again, I will defer to the FL group on that one.
Sorry I could not answer all your questions. I do know that BANA has a task force established to determine some of these issues. I will forward your questions to them just to be sure they cover things like this!
Have a great day!
Cindi
The correct order for the Publisher/Copyright segment of the title page is:
Publisher Information
Publisher's City/State
Website
Copyright
Reproduction Notice
ISBN
Printing HistoryThanks for bringing this to my attention. I had thought this problem was fixed.
Cindi Laurent
In example 1, each letter stands for something so they would be individually capped. To double cap the string implies that the letter series is an abbreviation for one item.
S and F would need a letter indicator in the key. Only the cap sign is used with the letter in the drawing itself.
In example 2, I agree that the letters H and T would be treated as math expressions unspaced from the operation signs
Dorothy (cl)
