Connie Stone
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ParticipantJulie,
Only the format rules that are already in place such as the blank lines concerning headings or boxes if in the TOC and separating front matter from body matter.
I am unable to see your example, but Braille Formats 2.10.7 states that any line without a page number must end at least 6 cells before the right margin and 2.10.2 does not allow you to place TOC entries on line 1 or line 25 of a braille page to avoid confusion with the print and braille page numbers. Although you can use line 25 if you are doing interpoint on the even-numbered (left-hand) page where the braille page number is suppressed.
If you follow the above rules, does that help the transcription look "less muddy"?
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantAnne,
Follow Braille Formats 10.3.3 where each of the "paragraphs" that you are referring to in #4 and #5 would be an additional paragraph without a blank line before except for the display mentioned below.
Keep all of #4 on one page and all of #5 on one page if possible.
I would display "The field had ..."
For your second set of examples, Sim Braille 2c is correct except remove the blank line on line 13. It also follows rule 10.3.3.
Continue the good work,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantAmber,
The flourishes are visual and can be omitted. From what you have wrote, these are mid-chapter headings so they would be cell 5 headings. The blank line before the cell 5 heading along with the cell 5 heading is sufficient to show a break in context while maintaining a flow of text.
Keep up the good work,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantMary,
It did challenge the committee with the interpretation of the rules but the formats committee was up for the challenge.
You will follow print with the division of banner as in the second example. [Braille Formats 1.10.1 Last line]
Keep up the good work,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantSoo Jo Kim,
The lines under the "Group Translation" heading appear to just be blank lines for notes. They do not align evenly with lines under "Group Poem". I would not consider this a table, therefore you do not need the guide dots. You would also need to change the Group Poem to a Center Heading due to Origins of Violence having to be centered. I suggest you place a TN under the Group Translation such as "Ten blank lines are provided for notes."
Hope this helps,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantChristine,
In Braille Formats Principles of Print-to-Braille-Transcription, 2016 rule 8.3.5d states "A heading must be followed by at least one complete list item before the list is continued on a new braille page." And there was a March 2024 Update which added "(which may be more than one braille line)".
You can go to the BANA website to download this Formats version and get the updates.
Thank you,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantHello Pamela,
Follow print with spacing and punctuation for these type of references.
Thank you for a great question,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantSoo Ja Kim,
This is a lot of headings, 5 before text. You can follow a cell-5 heading with a cell-5 heading but you cannot follow a cell-7 heading with a cell-7 heading so I suggest the following. Make sure that you stay consistent with this same hierarchy throughout the book.
6 General (Centered Heading)
6.1 General Settings (Centered Heading)
6.1.1 Language (Cell-5 Heading)
6.1.1.1 Download (Cell-5 Heading)
6.1.1.1.1 Change (Cell 7 Heading)
Text
6.1.1.1.2 Change (Cell 7 Heading)
Text
6.1.1.1.3 Swap voices (Cell 7 Heading)
Text
Great job! Keep up the good work,
Connie
November 20, 2024 at 4:15 pm in reply to: Following print when words are divided between print pages #43255Connie Stone
ParticipantThe Formats Committee has continued discussing this topic and has now come to the conclusion that we would say to follow print and divide the syllabified word between pages as in print. This is the most consistent with the rules and UEB.
Thank you,
Connie
November 20, 2024 at 2:17 pm in reply to: Following print when words are divided between print pages #43249Connie Stone
ParticipantMy original answer was to keep the syllabified words together and place the page change after. The idea behind rule 20.2.1c is to maintain that a syllabified word is on one line.
I asked the Formats Committee the question concerning dividing syllabified words between pages. The Committee had a good discussion with differing opinions. You can consider grade or if phonetics are involved. Is print or syllabification more important to the reader. Since we can not determine if the reader uses the syllabification, we chose the syllabification and that we would not divide the syllabified words between pages.
Thank you,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantMary,
I am sorry that I must of overlooked this question yesterday. No, it is not required to list box lines on the SSP. You can refer to Appendix G in the Textbook Formats for a list of requirements.
Connie
November 18, 2024 at 6:52 pm in reply to: Following print when words are divided between print pages #43224Connie Stone
ParticipantLindy,
I created an example so I hope it helps. I hope it doesn't happen often because it is not good even for a sighted reader but I have seen it before myself.
Thank you,
Connie
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ParticipantMary,
You are correct and they are not required to be listed. They are not technical codes.
Some agencies may require these codes be added, and agencies can make these items as part of their specs.
Keep up the good work,
Connie
Connie Stone
ParticipantMary,
Under Appendix G of the Textbook Code you are not required to list the note separation line or line-mode on the SSP.
You could work for an agency that request this information and then you would follow their request.
Hope this answers your question,
Connie
November 18, 2024 at 3:26 pm in reply to: Following print when words are divided between print pages #43217Connie Stone
ParticipantMary,
In the case of the syllabicated words I would also look to rule 20.2.1c which wants the syllabicated word on one line if it fits. So you would be correct to keep the word as a whole on the page (and line) it began.
Connie
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