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In response to your second question, no, I would not use a letter sign on the r or the pi in the fraction
[simbraille]?r radians/.p radians#[/simbraille], because there should not be the opportunity for confusion since contractions can't be used in contact with the opening fraction indicator or the fraction line (Nemeth Code section 55.a.i).
edited by kdejute on 7/18/2015crepemyrtleParticipantPlease give me a few hours to consult on this. I will get back to you by this evening.
crepemyrtleParticipantYou are correct that you would leave a blank line before and after displayed "literary" text as shown in your example. I think, however, that your original example is not of displayed text. Those kinds of decisions are left to the transcriber, so just be consistent in your interpretations.
crepemyrtleParticipantThe reason I asked about displayed is because I have a math book with displayed sentences that are not math expressions. "Application of the Formats Guidelines 2011 to Nemeth Transcriptions" says to follow Formats for displayed literary text, so I assume there will be a blank line before and after even though the book is brailled in Nemeth. (See attached example.)
crepemyrtleParticipantThat example doesn't give an indication as to WHY the acknowledgements were moved. I think they are not moved unless they start at the beginning of the book and are CONTINUED in print to the back. Then it would be appropriate to move the whole thing to the print page at the back where the rest of it appears. However, in your specific situation, if the acknowledgements are contained at the beginning of the book, braille them in print order. In that case, use p-page numbers.
--Joanna
crepemyrtleParticipantI'm sorry I don't have a print copy I can send. I was going through the 2011 Formats and saw the following statement in the Transcriber's Note sample in Section 2 on page 2-54 "The acknowledgments on page iv have been moved to page 805." I searched and searched for anything relating to this in the 2011 formats, but found nothing. I went to my workshop materials from a national conference and found my answer!! Here is the example from the workshop so you know what type of acknowledgments I was referring to.
ACKNOWLEDGMENTS
For permission to reprint copyrighted material, grateful acknowledgment is made to the following sources:
American Library Association: From ...
Double Day Press: "The Jacket" ...
crepemyrtleParticipantIs that a rule citation you are asking about. Can you please tell me where that comes from?
--Joanna
crepemyrtleParticipantYou are correct. Based on the original attachment (posted by Ricia2001), the numbers to the left of the horizontal number line should have the numeric indicator, but the numbers to the right, should not.
BettycrepemyrtleParticipantSorry again about the delay. Yes, you would use the multipurpose indicator and no numeric indicator. Thank you for jump starting me.
crepemyrtleParticipantI read through that document and also was at the Nemeth workshop in San Antonio and never saw or heard anything indicating that a blank line is no longer required between a cell-5 heading and directions. I read the section on directions in the Braille Formats 2011 and saw nothing about Nemeth. Where was this change mentioned? With nothing specified I assumed, as you stated, that Nemeth format takes precedence.
crepemyrtleParticipantMy goodness. You use an i for an inverted exclamation point and you are asking me to know what you mean. I wish! Look at Section 6.5 as mentioned for general information about the dash and what spacing to use. Also see 9.4 Blanks to be filled for using the the double dash in contact with a dash shown preceding conversation, which I think is the situation you have as you describe it. See Section 14.20 Spanish for details about the spacing of the inverted exclamation and question mark. The dot sequcne you give is not correct. All those 36's! There is no way for the reader to easily discern the conversatiion from the blank to be filled. The solution is in the sections given.
--Joanna
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