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Sorry I've forgotten to copy the TN that I've written for the exercise. I'm not sure if I'm written too much or not enough. Thank you for your help.
joannavenneriParticipantNo, not any more. See 1.1.4 A transcriber does not edit the text. That's exactly what it means. If something is on the right in print and actually located in braille on the next page, transcribe what the print says and then add a TN to say that the item is loccated in braille on the next page or wherever the reader can expect to find it. Don't get carried away. If the item on the right actually just follows in braille, don't add a TN.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantSaralyn is not able to respond to posts at this time so she has asked me to fill in. It's Joanna, from over next door in Formats. I have made appropriate inquiries and the answer here is quite short. The ONLY rules for the trial manuscript are in the NLS Instruction Manual 5th edition. This is the only set of published rules and thsoe are the ones to use for the trial manuscript. My understanding is that the upcoming 6th Edition will require the new Formats to be used, but the 6th Edition has not been officialy approved by BANA and has not been published.
5th Edition NLS Manual. Use ONLY the formatting indicated in this edition.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantI agree that this is a source citation and the guidelines say these are in 7-5 at the most appropriate location. And there you are. I think that's what is done here. The guidelines don't mention any other scenario. Thanks for sending the print.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantThe section on Brass Bands is in a yellow box.
joannavenneriParticipantSee 6.4 on Omitted Illustrations. If you were going to omit captions that repeat information in the text, I think you would have a TN that says so. TN Captions that repeat text are omitted. But I don't think you can just omit anything like that without notice. Used to be, but not any more. And consider that including such captions is a way of letting the reader know that there is picture. Part of what the transcriber does is inform the reader about what's on the page. Words alone aren't enough. That's all Formats is, informing the reader about the page. If just the words were enough, we wouldn't need Formats. We could just do the words. That is actually the way it used to be.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantThanks for the kind words. The only wisdom I have at the moment is to note that I see this same question posted a minute before this one. I'm responding to this one and I will delete the earlier one. I had seen no previous messages about this.
Source citations and attributes are both covered IN Displayed Materials and there is no mention of anything other than a 7-5 margin for source citations. But note that what comes after displayed material is usually an ATTRIBUTION and those are blocked in the fifth cell to the right of the preceding line. It is source citations that are in 7-5. Determine whether you have an attribution or a source citation. See 9.4 and 9.5.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantI have no information about an update regarding this issue, so it is best to treat the current situation as permanent unless and until some kind of update eventually addresses it. In the meantime, I suggest a consistent approach. If you have other special symbols AND CBC symbols, I would capitalize all the special symbols as given in 2.5.2.d. If you have ONLY CBC symbols you can leave them as lower case shown in the special update. However, I do not think it would be incorrect to capitalize them anyway because the general guidelines calls for it. Your choice. Be consistent.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantYes and yes.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantHaven't heard anything yet. Will post it here when information received.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantThank you! That's what I meant. I thought the boxes and arrows were on the actual print page and now I see you added that to explain the meaning of the bullets.
Even though these look like bullets, the text identifies them as dots, and that should usage should be followed in braille. I would think of these as icons which the transcriber creates with a shape indicator, rather than bullets. You might want to label these yd for yellow dot, etc. Place them as in print, preceding the entry followed by a space. List the icons in special symbols. Transcribe the boxed material at the top of the page, right after main heading, so the reader will have that information. If the box is repeated on every print page, I would NOT repeat it in braille, unless the information in that box changes, which is unlikely.
Do not use the dots in guide words. Transcribe guide words as if the dots weren't there at all.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantJoanna,
The entire Glossary is presented this way. I have a colored dot before every word.joannavenneriParticipantBody matter starts with print page 3 and if that's the first print page number you see on the first page of body matter, show that in braille as 1-3 and list it from page 1 on the title page. Pages 1 and 2 are the implied page numbers. Contents is front matter, not body matter, and unless those print page numbers are 1 and 2, which would be unusual, those pages have nothing to do with this.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantI am not clear about what you are asking about. Are you asking about ths actual glossary? Does the actual glossary include these colored bullets? Or are you asking about how to do this particular page with the boxes and the arrows? Or did you add the boxes with the arrows? Or are you asking about just colored bullets? How would I tell that?
What is the question here? Please let us know and I'll try to help.
--Joanna
joannavenneriParticipantI agree with you. Treat each word independently. If it has only one stress mark, that is primary. Disregard what stress marks in other words may look like. When you have a word with the two stress marks, it is clear that one of them is primary and the other secondary.
--Joanna
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