Julie Sumwalt
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Hi Mary,
We're glad you asked. Please repost this on the Formats forum.
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Julie
July 11, 2018 at 4:27 pm in reply to: UEB Technical Symbol for Sign of Comparison (? above = sign? #31566Julie SumwaltParticipantHi,
My apologies for the delay. I'm researching this. We've almost reached a consensus and am waiting for confirmation.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi,
Include the colon in the bold. It's messy not to, clutter that isn't needed. See UEB 9.7.2 and 9.7.3 about generally including (non-paired) closing and incidental punctuation within the typeform indicators.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Susan,
So sorry for the delay. This forum is new and it slipped my attention. I'm moderating for now.
You are correct; that seems to be a glitch in the Braille2000 programming. Dots 25 represent the contraction "cc" ONLY when it is between two letters so there is no need for the grade 1 symbol indicator in the instance of "https://" because the forward slash isn't a letter. The same for "c:\". If, however, you have "c:index" (I'm making something up; I've no idea if that would ever happen in the computer world.), then you would need the grade 1 symbol indicator because dots 25 are between two letters.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantIt depends on what comes after. Can you provide the print and braille you're talking about?
Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi,
The transcriber-defined typeform word indicator must use a terminator if the effect stops within a symbols-sequence, following the rules of typeform indicators. The rules of capitalization do not apply to typeform indicators. And, P.S., where capitalization IS shown, the rules of capitalization apply, not the rules of typeform indicators.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantJulie SumwaltParticipantHi,
This has to do with formatting rather than code, but I will answer your questions here.
- A print example would be helpful. All I can say is that if you see the copyright symbol, braille it where it is. If you see the word “copyright”, that’s what you braille. If you see both, braille both.
- No, it means braille what you see. Don’t add anything. If a text is copyrighted, it will say so with the symbol, the word, or both. If it is not copyrighted, it won’t have any of those things and adding them will be giving misinformation.
- Braille what you see, don’t add what you don’t. What has been stated or not stated is the legal information provided by the publisher. We transcribers don’t mess with that.
- The ISBN acronym does not need to be on the same line as the number. There is no reason to divide “Transcription of ISBN:”.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Melissa,
Thanks for your patience. You are on the right track. I've attached the flowchart with the remaining boxes numbered. When you are done with box 7, go back up to box 3, not box 2, because box 2 is done.
I'm not sure what DMC stands for.
I like your use of non-UEB code switch indicators. A category heading on the SS page seems a good choice in this case.
Good job! Flowcharts are challenging.
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Julie
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Julie SumwaltParticipantHello Cindy and Clay,
In the example you have shown, the prime and double prime signs are shown. They are real prime signs because they are slanted. So that is what you should braille--that is, the first simbraille example that you included in your question.
If, however, what you have shown me is a result of your computer because you retyped the passage and the actual text in front of you shows those symbols as straight up and down, then an apostrophe and a nondirectional quotation were used in the text. The rule says that these "can" be brailled as exactly that--your simbraille example #2. I don't take this to mean that we must, but that we can. That said, UEB tends to follow print very closely, so if I can easily tell that the marks are straight up and down, that is what I do.
Keep in mind that dots 2356 will be read as the contraction for "were" if it's standing alone, so you will need a grade 1 indicator for those situations. The double prime sign can't be mistaken for anything else, so that symbol does not need a grade 1 indicator.
I should also state that if this is being transcribed in Nemeth within UEB, then Nemeth rules and symbols apply.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Lealisa,
Thanks for waiting while I researched this interesting question. First of all, the β isn't a modified letter, it's a non-Latin letter in the German alphabet. World Braille Usage shows dots 2346, but then the other foreign language symbols for the umlauted letters would also have to be used instead of UEB modifiers, and would necessitate the use of non-UEB code switch indicators ... way too complicated for a novel. There is no provision yet in the UEB code for that letter. The International Council of English Braille is planning to establish a symbol in the future. In the meantime, the easiest solution is to substitute "ss" for the β and explain this in a transcriber's note.
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Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Betty,
Confirmed: Use the equilibrium arrow shown in GTM 16. I've attached a BRF file and (hopefully) simbraille below.
;;;,H9"6"6,H,C,O5#C9"- ^_7 ,H5#2,C,O5#C
^_7 ,H5#B,O"6,C,O5#B;'
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Betty,
I'm looking into this. GTM 16 Chemistry shows a different construct for an equilibrium arrow, which looks like what you have. I'll get back to you soon.
Regards,
Julie
Julie SumwaltParticipantHi Katrina,
I understand the snafu with quotation marks and dot 5. 🙂
Your conclusion and reasoning are solid. There is no need for grade 1 indicators in this symbols-sequence.
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Julie
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