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Thank you for the question, Tung.
In response:
- Print clearly has the variables aligned, so you do need to align the variables x and y.
- You do not need a numeric indicator before the number 8 on the second line. The space inserted before it for purposes of aligning variables is not considered when deciding whether or not to use a numeric indicator.
- Your code switch indicators are placed quite correctly. (The opening code switch indicator is placed on a line with text preceding spatial material with a blank line following it, and the terminator is placed following the blank line after spatial material in cell 1 on a line by itself.)
Cheers!
–Kyle
Yes, this is a difficult exercise for the braille user to get satisfaction from. Even a tactile graphic of the line drawing of Snoopy the cartoon dog holding up a piece of paper with A+ written on it would probably be mostly meaningless.
I agree with Cindi that presenting each quadrant on a separate braille page would allow the student to complete the activity and thus prove their understanding of coordinate points on the plane. [The only alternative to that I can think of is using a poster-board-sized piece of paper for the whole coordinate plane, which would be rather spectacular and really bulky/involved.]
Thank you for sharing the challenge and your thoughts!
–Kyle
Thank you for the question.
You're right that the placement in print of the sentence-ending period, following an expression that must be transcribed as spatial material, is inconvenient (to say the least).
I cannot point to a section in which either the Nemeth Code or the Guidance addresses sentence-ending punctuation and spatially arranged division. As you obviously know, sentence-ending punctuation that's followed by non-technical material belongs after the Nemeth Code terminator. So, I suspect that the most reader-friendly placement of the period you ask about would be immediately following the Nemeth Code terminator, even if that results in a braille line that contains nothing but a Nemeth Code terminator and a period.
Unrelated to punctuation: What if the word "Remainder" were uncontracted and treated as a label that's part of the synthetic division arrangement?
I hope that is helpful. Thank you again for the question.
–Kyle
Celia,
Thank you for the question.
The letter p in the situation you describe should not be preceded by an English Letter Indicator.
As Nemeth Code section 27.g says, 'The English-letter indicator must not be used with any letter or combination of letters which are neither "single letters" nor "short-form combinations" in situations not specifically covered (see §§26, 27, 28, and 51).'
–Kyle
P.S. The p you describe is not a "single letter" according to Nemeth Code section 25.a.vi.
Shawn,
I would strongly recommend using the Nemeth Code script typeform for double-struck Rs, with a TN to explain the representation of print.
Please see page 7-11 (in Lesson 7) of the Provisional Nemeth Instruction Manual for further discussion of this approach to retaining print distinction.
Thank you for the question!
–Kyle
Your question has helped to improve our primary resources! This response is being updated on 10/29/2020 after much discussion. Please read on.-----------------------------First, please note that both sections quoted in your question deal with braille page breaks, while the actual question and illuminating example deal with a print page break within a braille page.Second, the section references and related quotations in your question are from the Provisional Instruction Manual on Nemeth Code, which is not a rule book. The Instruction Manual is based on: the Nemeth Code, its updates, and the Guidance mentioned above.MOST IMPORTANTLY:#11 under the heading Additional Guidelines in the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts says, "The opening Nemeth Code indicator and the Nemeth Code terminator should be placed on the same page with part of the expression to which they apply."The BANA Nemeth Code Technical Committee has discussed this particular wording, and they interpret the guideline to mean “The opening Nemeth Code indicator and the Nemeth Code terminator should be placed on the same braille page with part of the expression to which they apply.”
So, in fact, the very last thing on a print page could be the opening Nemeth Code indicator. You do not have to move the opening Nemeth Code indicator to print page 816.
However, it would be alright to do so.
Thus, the answer to your question, “Should an opening Nemeth Code indicator be placed so that it is on the same print page as the material to which it applies?” is:
It is not required. I would recommend it.
In conclusion, the Guidance says that an opening Nemeth Code indicator cannot be the last thing on a braille page. As for print pages, it is not against the Guidance to say that an opening Nemeth Code indicator should not be the last thing on a print page.
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When I wrote that last paragraph, I was thinking of a recent question about Nemeth or UEB squares: https://www.nationalbraille.org/topic/nemeth-or-ueb-squares/
If that doesn’t clarify my final paragraph to you, please do say.
–Kyle
Shelley,
Thank you for the questions.
Grouping symbols around fractions that are transcribed spatially are not enlarged [because they do not enclose multiple separate rows of information]; they are transcribed using simple one-cell grouping symbols on the braille line with the fraction indicators and fraction line.
See the fraction transcribed spatially in the denominator of the second example on page 79 of the Nemeth Code [section 68’s example (3)].
In response to your second question, section 60 of the Nemeth Code says in part, “Items which are individually canceled in ink print must be represented as individually canceled in the transcription.” Unfortunately, there is not a way to transcribe your print’s one long strike that cancels both one fraction’s denominator and a separate fraction’s numerator. So, yes, simply cancel each appropriate numerator or denominator on its own.
Braille on!
–Kyle
Trumbull,
This can be tricky, and, like you, I cannot point to a rule that specifically addresses blanks in a Nemeth-within-UEB transcription.
I *can,* however, affirm that it is inappropriate for the transcriber to give more information than the print does about what an answer should/will be like.
What I’m trying to say is, transcribe a low-line/omission dash/underscore according to where it appears in print and NOT what will/should replace it.
So, in your (very illustrative!) examples:
The low line that is part of a math expression (involving the “is congruent to” symbol) should be in Nemeth Code.
The low lines following the words “corresponds to” should be in UEB.
Really, I would put the low line in the sentence “So <fraction> is ____.” in UEB ... following the reasoning that the braille reader is getting the same information as the print reader from the instructions “The answer will be in decimal form.” and to transcribe the low line in Nemeth Code would be overkill.
Of course, this doesn’t solve all of our dilemmas, but I hope it shrinks some of them.
... Please let me add that I would transcribe consistently in Nemeth Code a <b>shape</b> that stands for something missing within a math expression and is then repeated and asked about outside of a math expression.
–Kyle
In item #5, where print uses squares to indicate a missing something in a mathematical expression, we’ll use the Nemeth square shape, as you say. With the goal of giving the reader consistent symbols, we’ll also use the Nemeth square for the other square, after “value of”.
The shapes that precede each answer choice are not part of the meaning of the text. I would omit them in braille or use a transcriber-defined shape for these squares. (The “transcriber-defined shape” is explained in the Rules of UEB, and the Guidance for Nemeth within UEB says it can be used both in UEB and between Nemeth Code switch indicators.) Whether you omit the squares before answer choices or transcribe them using a transcriber-defined shape, you’ll be giving the braille reader the same thing at the beginning of every answer choice.
Thank you for the questions! Please do let us know if you have more.
–Kyle
We can point to no rules that specifically address Pascal's triangle.
If possible, it would be appropriate to follow print's triangular layout of a representation of Pascal's triangle. The content of the triangle determines which code (Nemeth or UEB) will be used.
Since we're talking about a transcription using Nemeth within UEB, in your sample of print, the triangle made up of C's with subscripts must be transcribed in Nemeth Code, and the triangle made up of whole unmodified numbers may be transcribed in Nemeth Code or in UEB.
Attached is a BRF with both triangles from your sample print transcribed, with the longest row (i.e., the base) of the triangle beginning in cell 1 and each smaller row centered relative to the row below it.
–Kyle
Shelley,
It appears that what you have in your item 6 is a stem followed by a displayed bulleted list of non-technical material and a series of subitems. So, the correct formatting is probably 1-5 for the stem, 7-9 with blank lines before and after for the bulleted list, and 3-5 for the subitems.
Thank you for the question!
–Kyle
