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Yes, the remaining challenge is indeed making it fit. May the force be with you!
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorMy understanding is that on a number line, we do not use the numeric indicator at the beginning of a time label below the number line, according to TG guidelines for number lines; but the numeric indicator following the punctuation indicator and colon is used, according to Nemeth Code rules.
Sense make?
kdejuteModeratorThank you for the question.
The Nemeth Code tells us that "In work arranged spatially for computation, only the general omission symbol may be used in braille regardless of how the omission is denoted in ink print. In addition, the number of general omission symbols to be used must be the same as the number of omission signs which occur in ink print. (section 58 of The Nemeth Braille Code for Mathematics and Science Notation, 1972 Revision, 2007-2015 Updates, emphasis added)
Since the print reader is not getting indication of how many digits or symbols to put in a blue rectangle, it would be inappropriate to determine how many digits and print signs would make up the correct answer and then to place the corresponding number of omission symbols in the braille.
Instead, I suggest using one general omission indicator for each blue box, right aligned in the spatial arrangment, and including a brief transcriber's note with these examples (for example, "In the following problems, blue rectangles of different sizes indicate areas to be filled in. In braille, a general omission symbol is used on each line to be filled in.")
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorLynnette,
There is not a Nemeth Code symbol for the "tensor product."
Since there is not a symbol for the tensor product, it is advisable to transcribe the printed tensor product sign as a "circle with an interior cross". $C_$@*]
Thank you for the question!
–Kyle- This reply was modified 6 years, 7 months ago by kdejute. Reason: Did further research; confirmed no Nemeth Code symbol for "tensor product"
kdejuteModeratorShelley,
I think it would be most appropriate to open Nemeth Code just before the negative number that begins the math expression. In other words, I would leave the variable in UEB.
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorSince I'm "shouting" about tactile textures, I think I should also pass along some tactile graphic resources that I have found useful.
Tactile Graphics Resources
- BANA’s Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics
- Watch BANA’s website and/or sign up for BANA Announce to see the updated TG Guidelines, including information on using Nemeth within UEB contexts, once they are available.
- Tactile Graphic Image Library
- The TGIL is an APH-designed and -maintained resource that “contains a pool of well-designed templates to aid with the creation of tactile graphics”.
- samples from PRCVI’s website
- PRCVI ([Canadian/Vancouverian] Provincial Resource Centre for the Visually Impaired) has a section of its website dedicated to tactile graphics, with some files of complex tactile graphics available for download as well as a few instructional materials (some more up-to-date than others).
- APH’s Tactile Graphics TV
- TGTV is a series of online videos from APH devoted to tactile graphic design. Each episode in the ongoing series will address one or two aspects of the design process involved in adapting a print graphic (for example, from a textbook) into a readable tactile image.
In addition, you may post questions in the Tactile Graphics Forum of Ask an Expert.
kdejuteModeratorMichael,
Thank you for the question.
The sample you helpfully provided shouts "use textures" to me. Three different tactile textures to correspond to the three different printed colors should give the student the best access to the concept being taught.
I fully agree with your reservation about using any general omission symbols. How would you distinguish the pink, green, and blue areas? How many symbols should you use in each area? I think there are no good answers to those questions.
Are you able to use tactile area textures to transcribe this material?
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorBy convention and preference, I would not put an opening Nemeth Code indicator at the end of a centered heading.
Still, technically, I think it would not be prohibited by the Guidance for Transcription Using Nemeth Code Within UEB Contexts to do as you suggest with a one-line centered heading.
Thank you for the question. Please let me know if you have follow-up questions or concerns.
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorSally,
In fact, the numeric indicator should not appear before either the "negative 10" or the "30 and one-half" in your example, because the coordinate pair is an enclosed list (which can include signs of operation as well as mixed numbers).
Thank you for asking. Please do let me know if you have any kind of follow-up question.
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorGood day, Diana:
If a function name and its argument cannot fit on one braille line within the margins in effect, then it does make sense to insert a braille line break between the function name and the beginning of its argument.
Thank you for the question!
–KylekdejuteModeratorThank you for sharing this question.
I would describe question #1 in your print example as itemized material with one subentry level, because the multiple equations contained within each lettered subitem are not themselves itemized. So, I share your transcriber's discomfort with a format that treats the equations as sub-subitems.
Still, what the proofreader has suggested (and how your attached BRF is formatted) is not likely to confuse the braille reader.
Since you ask though, I would advise formatting question #1 with each lettered subitem starting in cell 3 with its first equation listed after one blank cell and the following equations each starting in cell 5 on a new braille line. (as in the BRF attached to this message).
Please note that in the attached BRF I have also:
- used only one Nemeth Code bubble, which opens before the first subitem, closes at the end of the last subitem, and contains one word ("CHALLENGE") that is preceded by a single-word switch indicator
- retained bold typeform for the first part of the cell-5 heading ("Multiplication & Division Problems 1") in order to distinguish it from the second part of that heading ("page 1 of 2")
Again, thank you for the question and examples. And kudos to you and the men with a message for examining the material and working to further refine your transcribing skills.
–Kyle
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You must be logged in to view attached files.kdejuteModeratorCindy,
Thank you for your question about transcribing using only UEB for technical material.
Your proposed transcription is correct.
Attached is an image file that contains the print you describe as well as the correct simbraille. This includes a grade 1 word indicator at the beginning of the symbols sequence, the letters AB enclosed in braille grouping indicators (in order to make it clear that the arrow is directly above both letters), the two-cell directly over indicator, and the four cells that represent the horizontal bidirectional arrow (as shown on page 63 of the UEB Guidelines for Technical Material).
Phew.
Again, thank you for the question!
–KyleAttachments:
You must be logged in to view attached files.kdejuteModeratorLaVerne,
Thank you for sharing your question and situation here. Many of us are encountering the same scenario.
Honestly, I jumped the gun. The NBA workshop "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts 1 & 2" and its examples were written based on a preview of coming updates to the Guidance for Transcription Using Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts; and those proposed updates have still not been approved and published by BANA.
So, officially, all we have to go by is the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts Approved June 2016, which says that whether a unit of measure is abbreviated or not it should be in the Nemeth switch indicators.
The updates on which the workshop "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts 1 & 2" was based are up for discussion at BANA's April board meeting, and we fervently anticipate the official publication of the version of the Guidance on which this workshop was based. Until that time, the workshop and the Guidance are out of sync. Upcoming NBA workshops, webinars, and publications on using the Nemeth Code within UEB contexts will be in sync with the officially published Guidance.
Again thank you for your question. Thank you also for your understanding.
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorThank you, Julia.
Your option A (with the comma at the end of the top line of the equation and no enlarged transcriber's grouping symbols used) is correct. This is the case because the "then ..." is a continuation of the sentence rather than a comment to the spatial arrangment.
–Kyle
kdejuteModeratorThank you for the question. I am having trouble interpreting the example and sample transcription you included. Could you attach the print as an image? And could you perhaps attach the sample transcription as a BRF?
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