[kdejute]

Thank you, Shelley.

I've looked at your attachment, and your third option is the correct one. This is because it keeps the math expression altogether on one braille line and allows the Nemeth Code terminator to be placed on a line with material preceding it. In other words, there is a preference for keeping the terminator on a line with the math expression, and there is no rule or preference for keeping the word "Solve:" with the math expression that follows it.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Thank you for identifying what Code combination you’re using.

It sounds like you have an equals sign modified with a question mark over it. See Nemeth Code, sections 86 and 101. See also Lesson 12 (specifically section 12.6.4) of the Provisional Revised Nemeth Course.

Thank you for the question and for your attention. Please post again if you have follow-up concerns.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Shelley,

A Nemeth Code terminator followed by punctuation may begin a line if they will not fit on the preceding line (or if fitting them would require dividing a math expression). Punctuation that follows a Nemeth Code terminator may not begin a line by itself.

I’m afraid your file did not attach. Could you attach a BRF instead of a DXB?

Thank you for the question!

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Thank you for your question.

First, you're correct that Nemeth Code says to format instructions in 5-3. A second paragraph in instructions should be formatted in 5-3. I suppose you could choose to condense all of your instructions to one paragraph if you can do so consistently throughout the book.

There is no hard and fast rule for how to represent the colored rectangles in your example (thank you for the attachment). Perhaps you could use other shapes to represent the other colors of rectangles. If you do that, you must explain it in a key for the reader.

Please let me know if you have follow-up questions or concerns.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Fred,

Thank you for your post.

First, titles for figures, tables, sections, etc. are transcribed in UEB. See #3 under Additional Guidelines in the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts. But decimals are transcribed in Nemeth Code. See #3.a under Basic Guidance on When to Switch in the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts.

Second, I do not understand your reference. I presented a workshop called "Discourse on Nemeth within UEB Context" in October 2016 at the NBA conference in St. Louis, Missouri. I presented a workshop called "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts 1 & 2" last year (October 2017 at the NBA conference in Orlando, Florida).

I will present an updated version of the workshop "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts One & Two" this year (October 24-26, 2018 at the NBA conference in Detroit, Michigan). Examples similar to the one you referenced are included in that workshop. After this year's conference, the most up-to-date "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts One & Two" will be available to purchase from NBA. Possibly, a version of the workshop "Discourse on Nemeth within UEB Context" will also be available to purchase.

Have I answered your question?

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Thank you for passing along this question, Shelley. Your interpretation is correct; the BANA Nemeth Code Technical Committee does NOT consider the symbols-sequence "and/or" to be a single word, so it could not be preceded by the Nemeth Code single-word switch indicator.

If "and/or" occured between two pieces of mathematical material, Nemeth Code would have to be terminated before "and/or".

Please do post again if you have follow-up concerns or questions.

[kdejute]

Thank you for your question, Shelley. I am conferring with others and will get back to you as soon as we have agreed.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Greetings, Trumbull:

Since the superscript indicator precedes a minus that is a left superscript, the negative integers in your example do NOT require a numeric indicator. This is because the minus is in fact not preceded by a space; it is preceded by an indicator.

Thank you, as always, for your question!
–Kyle

[kdejute]

I'm posting again to acknowledge how very difficult it can be to determine whether a letter is a variable or an abbreviation, because print can use the same letter in both roles (i.e., A for "amperes" and also A for "unknown quantity of amperes").

It can require a lot of analysis on the transcriber's part to determine when a single letter is an abbreviation (as opposed to a variable) in a given mathematical expression.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Mike,

Thank you for the question.

You are correct that letters representing units of measure may be variables or abbreviations depending upon the situation.

When a letter stands in for an unknown value, it is likely a variable. When a letter or letter combination stands for a standardized unit of measure, it is likely an abbreviation.

Some additional discussion of "variable or abbreviation?" can be found in the Provisional Revised Nemeth Course Manual, posted by NFB. I would direct you to Lesson 5, section 5.1.2.

Please post here again if you have follow-up questions.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Diana,

I think that moving forward, digital time will be transcribed in UEB unless the time is part of a mathematical expression or a number line.

In this case, the time is part of a number line, and number lines are transcribed in Nemeth Code.

Thank you for the astute question!
–Kyle

[kdejute]

Yes, the remaining challenge is indeed making it fit. May the force be with you!

–Kyle

[kdejute]

My understanding is that on a number line, we do not use the numeric indicator at the beginning of a time label below the number line, according to TG guidelines for number lines; but the numeric indicator following the punctuation indicator and colon is used, according to Nemeth Code rules.

Sense make?

[kdejute]

Thank you for the question.

The Nemeth Code tells us that "In work arranged spatially for computation, only the general omission symbol may be used in braille regardless of how the omission is denoted in ink print. In addition, the number of general omission symbols to be used must be the same as the number of omission signs which occur in ink print. (section 58 of The Nemeth Braille Code for Mathematics and Science Notation, 1972 Revision, 2007-2015 Updates, emphasis added)

Since the print reader is not getting indication of how many digits or symbols to put in a blue rectangle, it would be inappropriate to determine how many digits and print signs would make up the correct answer and then to place the corresponding number of omission symbols in the braille.

Instead, I suggest using one general omission indicator for each blue box, right aligned in the spatial arrangment, and including a brief transcriber's note with these examples (for example, "In the following problems, blue rectangles of different sizes indicate areas to be filled in. In braille, a general omission symbol is used on each line to be filled in.")

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Lynnette,

There is not a Nemeth Code symbol for the "tensor product."

Since there is not a symbol for the tensor product, it is advisable to transcribe the printed tensor product sign as a "circle with an interior cross". $C_$@*]

Thank you for the question!
–Kyle

• This reply was modified 6 years, 9 months ago by kdejute. Reason: Did further research; confirmed no Nemeth Code symbol for "tensor product"

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