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  • in reply to: open before or after variable? #31176
    kdejute
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    Shelley,

    I think it would be most appropriate to open Nemeth Code just before the negative number that begins the math expression. In other words, I would leave the variable in UEB.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: Colored boxes in displayed equation #31069
    kdejute
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    Since I'm "shouting" about tactile textures, I think I should also pass along some tactile graphic resources that I have found useful.

    Tactile Graphics Resources

    • ​BANA’s Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics
      • Watch BANA’s website and/or sign​ up for BANA Announce​ to see the updated TG Guidelines, including information on using Nemeth within UEB contexts, once they are available.
    • Tactile Graphic Image Library
      • The TGIL is an APH-designed and  -maintained resource that “contains a pool of well-designed templates to aid with the creation of tactile graphics”.​
    • samples from PRCVI’s website
      • PRCVI ([Canadian/Vancouverian] Provincial Resource Centre for the Visually Impaired) has a section of its website dedicated to tactile graphics, with some files of complex tactile graphics available for download as well as a few instructional materials (some more up-to-date than others).
    • APH’s Tactile Graphics TV​
      • TGTV is a series of online videos from APH devoted to tactile graphic design. Each episode in the ongoing series will address one or two aspects of the design process involved in adapting a print graphic (for example, from a textbook) into a readable tactile image.

    In addition, you may post questions in the Tactile Graphics Forum of Ask an Expert.

    in reply to: Colored boxes in displayed equation #31068
    kdejute
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    Michael,

    Thank you for the question.

    The sample you helpfully provided shouts "use textures" to me. Three different tactile textures to correspond to the three different printed colors should give the student the best access to the concept being taught.

    I fully agree with your reservation about using any general omission symbols.  How would you distinguish the pink, green, and blue areas? How many symbols should you use in each area? I think there are no good answers to those questions.

    Are you able to use tactile area textures to transcribe this material?

    –Kyle

    in reply to: Open Nemeth indicator at end of centered heading? #31041
    kdejute
    Moderator

    By convention and preference, I would not put an opening Nemeth Code indicator at the end of a centered heading.

    Still, technically, I think it would not be prohibited by the Guidance for Transcription Using Nemeth Code Within UEB Contexts to do as you suggest with a one-line centered heading.

    Thank you for the question. Please let me know if you have follow-up questions or concerns.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: Numeric Indicator with Mixed Numbers #30948
    kdejute
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    Sally,

    In fact, the numeric indicator should not appear before either the "negative 10" or the "30 and one-half" in your example, because the coordinate pair is an enclosed list (which can include signs of operation as well as mixed numbers).

    Thank you for asking. Please do let me know if you have any kind of follow-up question.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: Runover after the function name #30722
    kdejute
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    Good day, Diana:

    If a function name and its argument cannot fit on one braille line within the margins in effect, then it does make sense to insert a braille line break between the function name and the beginning of its argument.

    Thank you for the question!
    –Kyle

    in reply to: Nemeth in UEB Context / Formatting Exercise Material #30701
    kdejute
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    Thank you for sharing this question.

    I would describe question #1 in your print example as itemized material with one subentry level, because the multiple equations contained within each lettered subitem are not themselves itemized. So, I share your transcriber's discomfort with a format that treats the equations as sub-subitems.

    Still, what the proofreader has suggested (and how your attached BRF is formatted) is not likely to confuse the braille reader.

    Since you ask though, I would advise formatting question #1 with each lettered subitem starting in cell 3 with its first equation listed after one blank cell and the following equations each starting in cell 5 on a new braille line. (as in the BRF attached to this message).

    Please note that in the attached BRF I have also:

    • used only one Nemeth Code bubble, which opens before the first subitem, closes at the end of the last subitem, and contains one word ("CHALLENGE") that is preceded by a single-word switch indicator
    • retained bold typeform for the first part of the cell-5 heading ("Multiplication & Division Problems 1") in order to distinguish it from the second part of that heading ("page 1 of 2")

    Again, thank you for the question and examples. And kudos to you and the men with a message for examining the material and working to further refine your transcribing skills.

    –Kyle

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    in reply to: Common horizontal bidirectional arrow #30624
    kdejute
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    Cindy,

    Thank you for your question about transcribing using only UEB for technical material.

    Your proposed transcription is correct.

    Attached is an image file that contains the print you describe as well as the correct simbraille. This includes a grade 1 word indicator at the beginning of the symbols sequence, the letters AB enclosed in braille grouping indicators (in order to make it clear that the arrow is directly above both letters), the two-cell directly over indicator, and the four cells that represent the horizontal bidirectional arrow (as shown on page 63 of the UEB Guidelines for Technical Material).

    Phew.

    Again, thank you for the question!
    –Kyle

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    in reply to: Measurements in Nemeth within UEB #30590
    kdejute
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    LaVerne,

    Thank you for sharing your question and situation here. Many of us are encountering the same scenario.

    Honestly, I jumped the gun. The NBA workshop "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts 1 & 2" and its examples were written based on a preview of coming updates to the Guidance for Transcription Using Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts; and those proposed updates have still not been approved and published by BANA.

    So, officially, all we have to go by is the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts Approved June 2016, which says that whether a unit of measure is abbreviated or not it should be in the Nemeth switch indicators.

    The updates on which the workshop "Nemeth within UEB Contexts, Parts 1 & 2" was based are up for discussion at BANA's April board meeting, and we fervently anticipate the official publication of the version of the Guidance on which this workshop was based. Until that time, the workshop and the Guidance are out of sync. Upcoming NBA workshops, webinars, and publications on using the Nemeth Code within UEB contexts will be in sync with the officially published Guidance.

    Again thank you for your question. Thank you also for your understanding.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: comma alignment #30587
    kdejute
    Moderator

    Thank you, Julia.

    Your option A (with the comma at the end of the top line of the equation and no enlarged transcriber's grouping symbols used) is correct. This is the case because the "then ..." is a continuation of the sentence rather than a comment to the spatial arrangment.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: comma alignment #30579
    kdejute
    Moderator

    Thank you for the question. I am having trouble interpreting the example and sample transcription you included. Could you attach the print as an image? And could you perhaps attach the sample transcription as a BRF?

    in reply to: Physics equations in UEB #30578
    kdejute
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    Susan,

    That's a good UEB question.

    Let's see, you're transcribing using only UEB, and you have a series or list of equations, which are going to need a lot of "grade one-ifying," would it be appropriate to put all of them within one big grade 1 passage?

    Yes. It would be appropriate and right to put on the line before the series or list of equations a grade 1 passage indicator (preceded by the dot locator for "use") and to put on the line after the series a grade 1 terminator (preceded by the dot locator for "use").

    When you do this, please keep in mind that even within a grade 1 passage, a grade 1 symbol indicator will still be required before an upper-cell, lowercase letter (a-j) that follows immediately after a number.

    As always, please do let me know if you have follow-up or clarification questions.

    Additionally, you may be interested in NBA's upcoming 4-part webinar on Using UEB in Technical Materials.

    –Kyle

    in reply to: Where to put the numeric indicator #30576
    kdejute
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    Barb,

    Now I see! In the situation you describe, it would be best to put the Nemeth Code switch indicators on their own lines (within the box) both before and after the rows of information and so use contractions in the heading that's within the box.

    The situation is now:

    • a boxed table
      • followed by material that will be in UEB
      • with a table heading that is all text inside the box
      • with row headings that are words
      • and entries that are all tally marks

    In this scenario, I would put the opening Nemeth Code indicator on a line by itself in cell 1 immediately before the first row. And I would put the Nemeth Code terminator on a line by itself in cell 1 immediately before the closing box line. Then I would uncontract all the row headings [and eat two cookies in celebration].

    in reply to: To use or not to use Nemeth Format #30575
    kdejute
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    I see the difficulty here. ... If I were transcribing a worksheet whose subject was Math and/or Science, I would want to see other worksheets in the series. If some of those worksheets from the same series, did include material that would be transcribed in Nemeth Code (and so would necessitate abiding by the marriage of Braille Formats and Nemeth Code formatting rules), then I would probably transcribe all worksheets from that series following the same formatting rules.

    If I were following Guidance and rules very strictly, then for a transcription in UEB which included no Nemeth Code switch indicators, I would follow only Braille Formats formatting rules.

    So, if your math worksheet had no Nemeth on it at all, I would try to find a reason to use Nemeth formatting but could support the decision not to.

    Thank you for complicating it!
    –Kyle

    in reply to: Where to put the numeric indicator #30553
    kdejute
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    Barb,

    I believe you are asking where your opening Nemeth Code indicator and Nemeth Code terminator should go when you have the following scenario:

    • a boxed table
      • preceded by a table heading that is all text
      • followed by material that will be in UEB
      • with row headings that are words
      • and entries that are all tally marks

    In this scenario, I would put the opening Nemeth Code indicator and its required following blank cell in the first three cells of the opening box line, after the table's heading. And I would put the Nemeth Code terminator and its required preceding blank cell in the last three cells of the closing box line. Then I would uncontract all the row headings [and eat a cookie in celebration].

    I hope that helps! Thank you for the question.
    –Kyle

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