[kdejute]

Well, hmmm.

I think your set-up is a good start. Please consider the set-up in the attached .BRF, which makes more use of keying in the interest of keeping horizontally related the equations that are communicated via the column headings. I've followed your (I think appropriate) decision to, within this table-style presentation, align numbers by place value and allow dollar signs and operation signs to stick next to their related numbers.

Thank you for your neat question as well as your patience.

–Kyle

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[kdejute]

Good morning and good day to you, Susan!

Thank you for the question. If in a transcription using Nemeth within UEB, you have a series of multiple choice items and not all of them need to be transcribed in Nemeth Code, then the item identifiers should all be transcribed in UEB, and only the material that needs to be in Nemeth Code should be enclosed in Nemeth Code switch indicators.

[The point of the provision for transcribing item identifiers (e.g. problem numbers, answer choice letters, etc.) in Nemeth Code is to reduce the number of switch indicators used when a series of items all should be in Nemeth Code. In the example you shared, the number of switch indicators required would be the same whether the identifiers were in UEB or in Nemeth, and there is no reason for them to be in Nemeth Code.]

A .BRF of the print sample you shared is attached.

–Kyle

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[kdejute]

Rebecca,

I'm afraid that your sample file is larger than the forum will allow, so unfortunately I cannot offer any thoughts on what that looks like.

In partial response to your message, indeed the numeric indicator should be used or not used according to the rules of the Nemeth Code, and I might assume that in your example, the numeric indicator would be left out more often than included. Again, without seeing the example, I would be inclined to align dollar signs separately from signs of operation in the interest of reading ease.

Thank you for your question, and I will keep an eye out for a compressed upload of your sample file.

Cheers!

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Tabitha,

Thank you for following up and clearing things up.

In response to your question, a tactile graphic would likely give the most clear representation of a broken number line. However, if you must use braille cells, I would suggest the configuration in the image attached (in which slashes are used to represent the break in the line) paired with a transcriber's note stating something to the effect of "diagonal slashes / indicate a break in the number line" (It would be ideal to use wording from the video you mention).

Thank you again for your question. And keep on rocking the transcription!

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Tabitha,

I know what I want to say, but I am checking with other brains in order to confirm. Thank you for the astute question and for your patience.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Tabitha,

I'm afraid that your WORD file did not upload, because it exceeds the allowed file size for this forum.

In addition, could you please let me know if you are transcribing the worksheet using only UEB, or are you using Nemeth within UEB?

Thank you.
–Kyle

 

 

[kdejute]

Susie,

Thank you for your question; thank you especially for including the print example (mathematically incorrect though it may be).

There is no particular meaning to the fact that question 2's three steps are arranged horizontally across the page, so you do not need to retain that arrangement or describe the print for the braille reader.

I would suggest treating each step number as a heading and ignoring the print box lines entirely.

–Kyle

 

[kdejute]

Julia,

Thank you for your questions.

Please allow me to answer your second question first: Chemical symbols, whether comprised of a single letter or of multiple letters, should be enclosed in Nemeth Code switch indicators wherever doing so would PREVENT CONFUSION. However, there is currently no requirement beyond this that chemical symbols outside of an equation or other mathematical expression be enclosed in Nemeth Code switch indicators.

My answer to your first question (whether "names like 'Copper(I), Iron(III), Cobalt(II), etc.' need to be enclosed in Nemeth Code indicators) is no, they do not. In narrative text, I would transcribe these names of compounds that contain no superscripts, symbols or operation or comparison, or other "technical material" in UEB, without Nemeth Code switch indicators.

Again, thank you for  your questions, and thank you for your time.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Thank you for the question.

In most or all circumstances in which <i>E</i>. coli appears in a text transcribed using Nemeth Code with EBAE,

.,e4 coli

is the correct braille transcription. An image of this simbraille is attached.

 

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[kdejute]

Trumbull,

Thank you for the good question.

For the second of your two examples, I am confident that you would be correct in beginning Nemeth Code before the box that contains all technical material and terminating Nemeth Code after the technical material that follows the box.

For the first of your examples, in order to follow #6 under <b>Additional Guidelines</b>, I would use one set of code switch indicators for the table and another set for material that follows the table.

As always, please do let me know if you have any follow-up questions or concerns.

-Kyle

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[kdejute]

Joe,

Your thinking is logical and clearly explained. However, it is not quite in line with the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts. This is because #5 under Additional Guidelines in the Guidance applies to standard units of measure, namely those from the US customary units system, the metric system, and the International System of Units.

So,  the braille you provided in your Example 2 is correct.

Thank you for your question and your time.

–Kyle

 

[kdejute]

Good day, Tung.

Since the dark blue lines indicate where the content for light blue lines is coming from, I believe you should include all of the lines (You could probably use braille omission dashes for the light blue lines that indicate blanks to be filled and tactile lines for the dark blue lines). Similarly, I believe you should follow print as closely as is practical for alignment in order to help make clear the relationship between omission dashes on one line and omission dashes on the next line.

Thank  you sincerely for your question. Please do post again if you have follow-up concerns or queries.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Good day, Susan!

The attachment "Nemeth omission fields" is too big for our website to upload. Still, I think I can see from the UEB attachment what you're asking about.

I agree that there is not a code rule that addresses this issue specifically. So, we'll have to just talk about practical solutions that do not violate any codes.

One way you might indicate, in UEB and in Nemeth Code, blanks in which the student is to braille their answer directly is with a tactile line (or any tactile shape, since tactile shapes are not part of any code). Or perhaps you could "draw" a box with braille cells (I've heard this referred to as a "P-box").

⠏⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠉⠹

⠇              ⠸

⠧⠤⠤⠤⠤⠤⠤⠼

Alternatively, *perhaps* you could insert a heading, enclosed in TN indicators, before the space left empty for an answer. That transcriber-inserted heading --or maybe a regular 7-5 TN-- would always be in UEB and could always say the same thing (e.g., write your answer below).

I hope some part of the above helps. If you have time, please post here a description of what you decide to do.

Cheers!

--Kyle

[kdejute]

Good day, Tung. Thank you for the question.

Section 58 of the Nemeth Code says:

In work arranged spatially for computation, only the general omission symbol may be used in braille regardless of how the omission is denoted in ink print. In addition, the number of general omission symbols to be used must be the same as the number of omission signs which occur in ink print.

So, in item 1 of your example print, five general omission symbols will be used.
⠼⠂⠸⠲⠀⠀ ⠀⠿⠿
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠒⠴⠔
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠤⠀⠢⠶
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠒⠒⠒⠒⠒⠒
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠿⠿⠿

In response to your next question, the blank spatial form gives the student space to use the opposite operation (addition instead of subtraction) to check their answer, so it should be retained in braille. I would transcribe the blank spatial forms using tactile lines for the vertical lines (because using all general omission symbols gives the inaccurate impression that all the blank areas defined by the lines will be filled).

Last but not least, for items 9 and 10 in your example print, the square and the triangle do represent different values, so we need to keep that distinction in braille. Thank goodness these problems have the vertical lines to designate place value, so I would say you can retain these vertical lines and use the Nemeth Code's square and triangle shapes where they appear.

As always, please do let me know if you have follow-up questions.
Cheers!
–Kyle

[kdejute]

Tung,

The numbers being separated by semicolons does not change the fact that they are simple and freestanding with only interior commas, so they do not need to be inside a Nemeth switch.

Thank you for clarifying.

--Kyle

 

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