[kdejute]

Tung,

Thank you for your questions. My replies are below.

1. The numbers in the table should not be aligned as illustrated in the braille simulation (Thank you for including that). The table should be laid out as usual, with entries aligned left under their respective column headings and guide dots where there is room for a space and two or more guide dots. (The text's reference to aligning "from the right" is talking about aligning ones values, then tens values, then hundreds values, etc. and is not talking about alignment within a place value column.)
2. The numbers in the table do not need to be in Nemeth Code.
3. In questions 1 and 2 under Practice, the series of numbers do not need to be in Nemeth Code. They are simple numbers with interior commas, so it is good to keep them in UEB.
4. The answer choices to question 14, which consist of mathematical expressions that include signs of operation or comparison, should be transcribed altogether in one set of Nemeth switch indicators. The number in the stem of question 14 (3,709) should not be in Nemeth Code.

Cheers!

-Kyle

[kdejute]

Julia,

My responses to your questions are below. The attached document contains these responses as well as additional notes.

1. I agree that when you have a series of numbers some of which are paired with a sign of operation (e.g., "5, 8, 2, -3, 6, and -5"), it is preferable to enclose the whole series of numbers in one set of Nemeth switch indicators. However, if only two numbers appear, one of which is paired with a sign of operation, then I would enlose in Nemeth switch indicators only the modified number.
2. Author's notes within spatial problems ... should likely be handled as you describe, keying each author's note (using a numbered key) and listing the notes before the equation. As for the begin Nemeth Code indicator before spatial material when a non-embedded transcriber's note precedes the spatial material, I would not place the indicator on the line with the end of the TN, because the Guidance only technically allows for the indicator to be placed after preceding text. I think the likelihood that the reader would miss the opening Nemeth Code indicator is too great if it is placed following a TN.
3. For a multi-word author's note that appears with a fraction with cancellations (which must be represented spatially), I would do as you have suggested and use the keying technique described in item #2 above.
4. Could author's comments be left uncontracted even though they are not technically part of the Nemeth equation? No; that would be unclear and inconsistent. Author's non-mathematical comments should be in UEB.

Thank you for your questions and for your attention.

–Kyle

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[kdejute]

That is a good, practical question.

At the top of the main Ask an Expert page, (where links to all of the forums are listed) there is a Search field and button. Entering your search terms in that field and pressing the Search button will generate a list of all topics in all forums in which your search terms appear (in the topic title and/or topic text).

I hope that helps.

–Kyle

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[kdejute]

Yes, I would say that.  I would never use a UEB numeric space in a transcription using Nemeth within a UEB context.

Thank you for asking.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Diana,

Thank you for your question.

First, please do ensure that your print is in fact applying bold to certain numbers. Some fonts and/or printing processes can make print appear bold even though it is not.

Information on using bold for numerials is in section 32.b of the Nemeth Code.

The example you give would be transcribed in Nemeth  Code as follows:

(2+6)-3(5)+13

⠷⠸⠼⠆⠬⠖⠾⠤⠒⠷⠸⠼⠢⠾⠬⠂⠒

An example in which one digit of a number than consists of multiple digits is bold would be transcribed in Nemeth Code as follows:

(12+671)-3(59)

⠷⠂⠸⠼⠆⠬⠖⠸⠼⠶⠼⠂⠾⠤⠒⠷⠸⠼⠢⠼⠔⠾

Thank you for your attention and time!

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Barbara,

Thank you for your question.

The value $5.43 should be transcribed in Nemeth Code (see #3 on page 2 of the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts). Similarly, any number that is paired with a dollar sign should be transcribed in Nemeth Code.

A range of numbers like "14-17" should not be transcribed in Nemeth Code.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Thank you, Teresa, for your question.

I would say that since there are specific Nemeth Code rules for a numeral that is divided into segments (Nemeth Code sections 19 & 11.c), the example you describe should be transcribed in Nemeth Code.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Trumbull,

Good day! Kudos to you for working to subdue your bugaboo.

I would say that the word "unit(s)" is not a "measurement unit" in the way that feet or minutes are. So, I would say that #5 on page 7 of the Guidance does not apply to the word "unit."

As with other words, if "unit" appeared in a math expression such as x units + y units = 1 order, then you should include the whole math expression "x units + y units = 1 order" within Nemeth switch indicators (uncontracted).

I have not heard any talk of changing the Guidance for Transcription Using the Nemeth Code within UEB Contexts. I believe what we have now is the official guidelines document that we will have for some time.

However, a new Nemeth course that introduces Nemeth while working within UEB context is in the works, and that new Nemeth course will include further examples and discussion of the Guidance.

Thank you, as always, for your thoughtful question.

–Kyle

 

[kdejute]

Thank you for the follow-up. In response to your question:

This will work very nicely as a tactile graphic, since the focus here is the shape of the molecules and chains and not on their bonds. I would suggest using circles with two different fill textures.

A texture key would begin the page, labeling the two textures being used so that the graphic will not be cluttered with the Hs and the Cs. Use the UEB Grade 1 symbol indicator in the texture labels (H and C).

Following Chemistry Code layout instructions, the molecular labels ("Ethylene monomer" "Polyethylene chain" and "Polyethylene Branch") should be on the line above each drawing (with a blank line before and after the drawing itself) starting in the same cell as the leftmost location of the tactile. I believe cell 1 is the recommended location (according to Tactile Graphic Guidelines).

Each pair of examples shown in the book (Ethylene monomer & Polyethylene chain and Ethylene monomer & Polyethylene [chain with] Branch) is made of two separate molecules, so print's side-by-side layout is not important -- I would start each polyethylene diagram on a new line at the margin to allow the use of the full width of the paper. I imagine they will be pretty small at only 11" wide, so I don't see any reason why you can't delete a couple of the molecules in each polyethylene chain to allow for a better graphic.

Since no Nemeth Code is needed in the drawings, a code switch is unnecessary.

May the force be with you and  your embosser never drop a dot!

–Kyle (with consulation help)

[kdejute]

Jay,

Thank you for your question and for the well attached file. Could you please give me a bit more information? Namely:

1. In what code (or combination of codes)  are you transcribing this print?
2. Are you able to present material using a tactile graphic, or are you are limited to using braille dots?

Thank you.

–Kyle

[kdejute]

Hullo, Kim:

Is your question: "What is the UEB symbol for a check mark?"

 

If so, then I direct you to a similar questions on the Ask an Expert forum:

What is the UEB symbol ...

–Kyle

 

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[kdejute]

If you need further information, please do let me know.

[kdejute]

Good day, Kim.

If I understand your question correctly, you are wondering how to transcribe the series of steps with comments at the end of your sample text.

It is almost certainly not necessary to indicate that the comment text is blue. Context should make it abundantly clear to the reader what is part of the math expression and what is comment. Add to that the use of Nemeth Code switch indicators as illustrated in the attached files, and your braille reader should be very well off.

An image of the appropriate braille is attached as well as a BRF. [I am afraid it is not possible to attach a Braille2000 file at this time.]

Thank you for your question.

–Kyle

 

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[kdejute]

My responses are in the attached file. Thank you for your thoughtful questions.

–Kyle

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[kdejute]

I would format the answers for questions 1 and 2 in 3-5, treating them as subentries to the questions, which would be in 1-5.

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