Lindy Walton
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Hi Susan. I will try to address your comments. Let me know if you have further questions.
As with any transcription, your consistency in formatting will result in a layout that makes the reading flow. Simbraille examples are usually taken out of context so you can place them as they fit in YOUR transcription.
EXAMPLE can be a cell-5 or cell-7 heading. I see the orange example as a separate item, not as displayed material, which is why I started at the margin. I was not following an established Nemeth format from the codebook.
I don't know what "Guideline 10" is. Are you referring to Braille Formats? In exercise material, BF 10.8.4 tells us to format examples in the same way as the following questions. If items on page 4 of your book show a format that will apply nicely to this example, you could format it that way instead.
Hi Lindy,
Can you tell me the format you used when you created the braille example?
What mean is were you using the word Addition as a cell one (as if it were an itemized problem) with the spatial expanded problem starting in cell three as a runover or displayed material? I liked your format, I was just trying to make sure I was using it correctly for continued problems like this. Also, would you put the word "EXAMPLE" which is off to the side as a cell 5 heading to the word Addition, (then later subtraction, etc.)? And then, in Guideline 10, it looked like the heading Example is also placed in cell 1 right above the example problem. I am getting a little confused. Any clarification you can give, I would really appreciate it!
Thanks,
SusanThis is an interesting question and one I have heard from others, too. I am glad you brought it up.
BF 4.3.8 actually says this: "Use the period, rather than the decimal point, when a period appears between a letter and a number." The BF example shows "A.4" which is a numeral following a letter, but the rule itself doesn't say what to do when a letter follows a numeral like your example shows -- 1.a -- S8CS1.a
The Nemeth Code, however, is clear regarding a numeral following a letter. Use the multi-purpose indicator as shown in NC Sec.177.ii.
Hi Julie. I can't say I have ever seen a number line like these, where there is an additional arrowhead printed on the line. Does anyone else have experience with these?
Since distinctive coordinate markers which are superposed on a number line are moved to the line above, directly over the scale marks they cover, I suggest brailling a one-cell arrowhead (right- or left- pointing) above the appropriate location as you would any of the other markers we are given in TG 6.5.1.4.
Follow Braille Formats regarding the construction of the table, but follow Nemeth Code rules for items within the table. A blank space that means "information is missing" is brailled as a Nemeth general omission symbol, a printed dash is brailled as a long dash. Since Nemeth Code does not provide for blank space meaning "no data," follow Braille Formats for that (dot 5s.)
I'm weighing in with another alternative. It would be possible to do 8 x 6 in a literary transcription
just using the multiplication sign provided in an Appendix to the Guidelines. They are included so that for simple expressions the
Nemeth open and close indicators would not be necessary. You would of course use upper cell numbers.Thank you for all of your help. I've attached a scan of p 190 with the shaded circled letters. I was wondering about the large H's. Thanks again.
It looks to me like this illustration is attempting to replicate the 3-D molecule models that students use in the classroom, hence the circles around the atoms and the smaller hydrogen atom. In your braille graphic, you can ignore the circles around the letters, and the sizing is of no importance.
The shading is something I have never seen before. I think it is fine for you just to mention in a transcriber's note the fact that the rings are shaded in print.
The 2-dimensional orientation can be "tipped" which will allow you to use some horizontal and/or vertical bonds, along with a few oblique bonds necessary to complete each ring. The partially hidden hydrogens are, again, the print copy's attempt at making this appear three-dimensional. This is the CH3 molecule, so just make a carbon with three hydrogens, each with a single bond.
These bonds aren't really accurate. Just braille what you see (make them all single bonds). I think this is just a general illustration, not an accurate chemistry book as you say.
... Regarding the other page not shown, I'm not familiar with what you describe ("some of the circled letters are shaded around the letter itself within the circle"). I need to see the page in order to make a judgment -- can you attach it, too?
Thanks for the input. I read the code, but for some reason it wasn't clicking. What can I say: It was a Friday?!
Hi Julie. For the reader's benefit, since this is not a math book, I think it would be a better decision to follow EBAE's suggestions here. I would braille
1. Subtract 192°F from 212°F:
just as it appears in print, followed by a transcriber's note (in 7-5) saying something like this:
212ºF (boiling point of water at sea level) minus 192ºF (boiling point of water at your altitude) equals 20ºF (temperature difference)
using literary braille rules throughout.
Hi, this is Betty replying instead of Lindy.
See Rule VIII, Section 51 of the Nemeth Braille Code. Since the abbreviation, m, is not followed by a period (that applies to it)it must be preceded by the English-letter indicator (dots 56). The same applies to the abbreviation, g, for grams. Even when a superscript is applied to the abbreviation, you must still use the letter indicator.
See also Rule IX, Section 55c.ii. for the use of contractions to, into, and by with abbreviations.
Hope this clarifies your questions.
Betty
