Lindy Walton
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I would like to add that a subtlety in the Nemeth code narrative is that the word "sign" is used for the print character and "symbol" is used for the braille character. Keeping this in mind may help you as you read the rules.
- Lindy
Hi John. This is a very interesting puzzle.
See the attached brf file for the basic problems, which you can hopefully put into the method which you have established in this unusual layout. It looks messy at first glance, but if read vertically, as intended, it makes sense and follows all of the established Nemeth rules regarding alignment with cancellation and with regrouping numbers.
I think a transcriber's note would be helpful in this case where you have multiple lines of cancelled items. Something like "Red replacement numbers are located above each cancelled digit."
Let me know if this isn't working and we can try another approach.
- Lindy
Thanks for your reply, Kathleen! The curved line indicating syllable elision is typical and very familiar to me but I had never seen the added underlining before.
Hi Connie. This is an interesting question because the transcriber's note is describing the print. I would still transcribe them in Nemeth, as they will be transcribed within the actual text.
I think you added the bold to point out the focus of your question, but if you are retaining the bold you can refer to Sample 11 of Graphing Calculator Guidelines (page 46) which shows X3T and Y3T within the narrative, also in bold print. The simbraille is on page 47.
Lindy
When numerator and denominator are printed at the same level of writing, you are correct not to use opening and closing fraction indicators. You do need to transcribe this using Nemeth symbols, inside the switches. There will be only one numeric indicator, before the 4 in your example.
_% #4_/6-1_/3 _:
I am happy to be able to refer you to the newly published 2022 edition of the Nemeth code, Rule 13.3.2.
Lindy
Yes, that is correct. Do not space before the colon when it appears on the same line as the y, in this case.
Here are my thoughts on the symbol :=
Because the symbol has been defined to mean "is defined as equal to" it is one sign so should not be broken up.
If the expression fit on one line, there would be no space before the colon. A punctuation indicator would precede it. So it will be a 4-cell symbol, with a space following the equals sign. (456, 25, 46, 13, space)
This expression does not fit on one line. Our division rules say to divided before a comparison sign on the baseline of writing. I feel that the first runover line can begin with the punctuation indicator. This is an unusual formation so you should identify the symbol in a transcriber's note. Something like this: "The symbol ___ means "is defined as equal to". It is printed as a colon immediately followed by an equals sign."
I see no discrepancy in the division sites you have chosen. I am tempted, however, to make an exception to "displayed" format here and start the expression in cell 1, after a blank line. This will allow you to keep the "C" portions together on one line. This is breaking a format rule, but there are times when it benefits the reader to do so.
I think you need to insert a space after the word "Gain" as I believe it is a function name.
See the attached brf file for my suggested transcription of this long expression.
I invite anyone to chime in if my solution is problematic.
- Lindy
Hi Connie.
Yes, I have seen this symbol before and have wondered how to handle it. It will take me some time to go through my notes. I'll get back to you soon.
Lindy
Hmm. This is really a Braille Formats question. Can you repost it there? It would be helpful if you attach a pdf scan of the table in question.
Lindy
Hi Cheri. Can you determine the meaning of the asterisk? This may affect how it is transcribed. If you can post a snippet of the surrounding text for some context, I can offer some advice.
Lindy
I have further comments.
We have no rules or guidelines regarding comments to only one line of a spatially-arranged problem. I like your idea of placing the uncontracted comment to the right of the labeled line as long as the comment is short enough to fit on that line, as it does here.
"x = 1" is not part of the spatial arrangement. It should be transcribed after the blank line following the spatial portion and its comment should be placed on the following line as you do for other linear portions.
See the attached brf file.
Lindy
Hi Shellee.
Sorry for the delayed response. Happy New Year!
Yes, Nemeth continues to be in effect through a braille page turn.
In the sample you sent, the opening Nemeth Code indicator should be placed at the beginning of line 25 in order to be on the same line as the math to which it applies (embedded format).
Lindy
Hmm, interesting solution. I think that sentence in the lesson book needs to be rewritten. "regardless of its meaning" is referring to whether it means feet, or minutes of arc, or a derivation of a similar item such as A and A'. The statement should read "regardless of its *mathematical meaning".
The new Nemeth punctuation list include the UEB single quotation marks. The opening (left) single quotation mark is (6, 236) as it always has been. The closing (right) single quotation mark is (6, 356). In your example, if you are certain these are punctuation marks, you should use those symbols.
Lindy
