Lindy Walton
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Hi Shelley. Your jpg file is too big to be posted here. If you can't make it smaller, you may send it to me privately at lbw.braille@gmail.com.
- Lindy
I'm glad you asked this question. Are you talking about a table of values for graphing? And one that is completely blank except for the x and y headings? I suppose your transcription would depend on the intended use. In a textbook or a classroom situation, I would omit the table and insert a transcriber's note instructing the reader to create a table of values. When transcribing an exam, as you are doing, I would be more clear about what exactly is on the page. Especially if this is one showing empty fields for inserting data using a computer, which is how many exams are given nowadays.
Empty tables of values don't generally indicate how many values are to be inserted. If it is clear that, say, four x and four y values are to be inserted, then you could use a general omission symbol to indicate each missing value. I think that makes more sense than inserting two guide dots.
- Lindy
Hi, Susan.
Blank space in a Nemeth table does present a dilemma to the transcriber.
Yes, inside the switches, you use Nemeth symbols when the missing or blank entry is printed as a dash, underscore, etc. But when it is blank space, we are now suggesting that you follow Braille Formats and fill out the width of the column with guide dots (dot 5's). It doesn't matter if the blank space indicates a missing answer, or if it represents "no entry". By simply representing the blank entry with guide dots, you will not need to decide whether or not that space is to be filled in with an answer.
A transcriber's note is required to tell the reader that "A series of guide dots across the width of the column indicates a blank space." You don't need to say "a blank space to be filled in". You are just playing it as it lays.
Note that guide dots can appear inside a Nemeth table without needing to switch codes. Just like page change indicators, box lines, and column separation lines, guide dots can occur in either code.
- Lindy
I do enjoy these challenges. I played around with this table a bit and came up with something workable, I think.
I put the whole thing inside box lines. I had to break the rule about where to put that first equals sign in order to use the whole width of the page for the table portion which, miraculously, takes 40 cells.
I considered saving space by showing letters B G and N in lowercase, but since a lowercase n appears in the part below the table, this is not feasible.
What I ended up doing was keying -(BG/N^2)(1/N-1). If that is not giving away an answer somehow, I think it works. I blocked the runover of the fraction BG/N^2 because otherwise the table would not fit in 40 cells. By inserting a blank line between the rows, like we do in a matrix with runovers, I think this looks pretty good.
If you don't like this plan, using facing pages would be a good idea.
About row 3 in the table, the new Nemeth Code is hoping to offer new symbols for the vertical and diagonal ellipses. We can all look forward to that. In the meantime, for this project, transcribe the regular (3, 3, 3) horizontal ellipsis.
- Lindy
Wow, Michael. I've never seen this before. I don't think treating it like a binomial coefficient gets the point across. I think it makes sense to treat this like a modified expression. I'll ask other members of the committee to look at this post and see what they think.
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Lindy
We have different considerations when transcribing tests. I expect you cannot omit any of this material. I am going to forward your question to a Formats expert and ask that the answer be posted here.
Hi Susan.
I'm having trouble seeing what the highlighted portion says (the image is blurry when I enlarge it), but I *think those number/letter combinations are state standards citations. This is not math, so use UEB rules to transcribe them, just as you will for the titles and labels.
If I'm not understanding your question, please send a scan using higher resolution. Thank you.
Lindy
Hi Denise.
Your understanding of this code switching rule is correct.
All of your examples are correct with the exception of the last example: the word "and" will be contracted because it is in UEB with the single-word switch.
Thank you for checking with us.
- Lindy
You are very welcome! I forgot to mention that, if you use CBC, you should cite it on the Transcriber's Notes page as follows:
Computer Braille Code, Revised 2000, 2010 Update
and you should mention on the Special Symbols page that the non-UEB code switch indicators are switching to that code.
Here is our recommendation.
As mentioned before, computer code should not be transcribed in Nemeth. But since your client insists, it would be better to use the old Computer Braille Code for the computer text. This would be an interesting mix of UEB, Nemeth, and CBC, and is not standard practice, but we feel it would be better than trying to wrestle Nemeth Code within the computer language. You would precede and follow the computer notation with the "non-UEB" code switch indicators. See Section 14 of the Rules of Unified English Braille.
IF you continue to transcribe the computer notation in Nemeth, the number following the percent symbol needs to be identified as a numeral, so a numeric indicator should be inserted.
Let me know if further problems arise.
- Lindy Walton
I will run this by the BANA Nemeth committee and see what they have to say about the unspaced numeral following a percent symbol.
I'm sorry that your expertise as a Nemeth transcriber is not being respected here -- you should not be transcribing the computer notation in Nemeth.
Hi Carmen.
I'm not quite sure what to say. If you are transcribing Javascript, you should be using UEB. Computer notation does not use Nemeth Code. Can you send an image of what you are dealing with?
Thanks.
- Lindy
Hi Marcellina. This is something I am not familiar with. Is there a reason the dot 3 apostrophe would be unclear or ambiguous?
My second thought is to use a dot 6 comma and explain it in a transcriber's note, but if the comma symbol is being used for a decimal point, then this would not be an option.
Is there anyone out there who has a solution?
- Lindy
Hello. I apologize for the delay in my response. I have been away.
The sample pages you sent are in UEB. If you are transcribing technical material in UEB, you should not be following the rules in the Braille Code for Chemical Notation -- that resource is an adjunct to the Nemeth Code.
I am not at all an expert in UEB technical. I suggest that you post your question to the UEB Technical thread. Please include an image of the print for this chemical diagram. The best advice can be given when the print is shared.
Thank you for your question. I will learn something when I read the reply.
- Lindy Walton
Hi Beverly.
Actually, there is nothing on this page that requires Nemeth. Use the UEB low line (underscore) for the blanks, and contract the word "and".
.- & .- IS .-4
In another setting, regarding the use of the single-word switch indicator in Nemeth context, although its use is limited to only one word at a time, it can be used more than once in a sentence as long as there is Nemeth between them.
Lindy
