Susan Baker
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Thank you very much!
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Susan BakerParticipantThank you so much!
Susan BakerParticipantWow! I really like the beautifully simple tactile line idea! Thank you so much! One really nice thing is that I can make it the length needed, and it does not take much time to make the tactile line. I'm going to go with that one.
Thanks again!
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October 4, 2016 at 9:48 am in reply to: More questions about extent of measurement unit within switch indicators #27540Susan BakerParticipantThank you for the updated answer, and that does make sense.
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Susan BakerParticipantThank you, Kyle. Your explanation really does help to clarify this for me.
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Susan BakerParticipantThank you so much! That is very helpful. Just a follow-up--for the use of the Nemeth symbols of shape for the square, I am going to assume that for the 5 digit number that I would just put the symbols of shape and nemeth comma adjacent to one another unspaced?
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Susan BakerParticipantThank you for your help!
SusanSusan BakerParticipantHi Susan
I think that, particularly due to the grade level, I would use the numeric indicator. Although the examples are similar to a thermometer and clock (as per Unit 6 of Guidelines and Standards for Tactile Graphics), they are not in the list on page 6-2.
I think that for the volume diagram, you should simplify to a straight on view, and explain in a transcriber's note. The same note could indicate that the measurements are given in Litres (L). Move the numbers and ticks outside (to the left) of the diagram, as is done for a thermometer. For the weigh scale, it should again be simplified with a description stating that there is a watermelon and _[u]?[/u]_ bananas on the scale, but that only the dial is shown in braille. Again, you could include in the TN that the measurements are shown in kilograms (kg). The tactile graphic could then be shown similar to a clock with the ticks straddling the perimeter and the numbers (including the numeric indicator) moved outside the circular dial.
Hope this helps decide how to handle these at a lower grade level. Keep it simple!
BettySusan BakerParticipantHullo, Susan!
I would say that it is safe to ignore the bold for all of the i's in your worksheet.
The heading of the worksheet, "Complex Numbers", does indicate that the i's represent imaginary numbers. Since there is no indication that the i's represent a vector or anything else that would have to be denoted by boldface, it appears that the bold is used in print only for appearance.
Thank you for the question.
–Kyle
Susan BakerParticipantSusan,
After conferring with my (excellent) committee, I can tell you that overall we think you should use the margin in effect. That is, your NC terminator after a spatial problem in a picture caption should be in cell 5.
Thank you for your perceptive question.
–KyleSusan BakerParticipantGood day! I apologize for my delayed response.
I think you're right that the clearest way to represent in braille what's being shown in print is to enclose the 3 in cancellation indicators and place "13" above that line as the value replacing the 3.
I would suggest that you include a note on the Transcriber's Notes page explaining that in print regrouping is represented by a little number "one" at the top left of a number that's being replaced.
My understanding is that regrouping shown as it is in your textbook is not covered in the Nemeth Code book, because representing regrouping in this visually appealing/spatial manner in print is a fairly recent development in the publishing industry.
–Kyle
edited by Kyle Transcriber on 6/10/2015Susan BakerParticipantAnswer from Kyle DeJute, Chair of the NBA Mathematics Braille Committee
Good day, Susan.
Thank you for your questions.
In response to your first question: Please do not use the UEB symbol for visible space (dots 346), because it comes from the UEB Guidelines for Technical Material, which should be avoided when creating a UEB-with-Nemeth transcription. Instead, I would suggest using the skeleton table format (Braille Formats, 2011 section 11.9.1.d), substituting the UEB low line (dots 46, 36) for the EBAE dash to indicate blanks to be filled. Use the same layout for the skeleton "hundreds-tens-ones" table that you use for the first, fully filled one.
In response to your second question: Within begin/end Nemeth indicators, you should use the double dash (36, 36, 36, 36) according to the Nemeth code book. UEB symbols are not used within Nemeth indicators, and Nemeth symbols are not used outside the confines of begin/end Nemeth indicators. So, for your equations later on in the book, I would use the following:
[braille]_% #56+100 .k ---- _:
Thank you again for your astute and well thought out questions.
Susan BakerParticipantThank you very much! Your response was helpful to me, Betty. Please keep me posted if BANA's test committee representative has any further comments.
SusanSusan BakerParticipantTo clarify, I intended to say that I would put the termination at the margin after the tactile boxes. If the math ends with print instead of graphics I would put it at the end of the text line.
Susan BakerParticipantThank you, Betty. Your advice is very helpful.
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