Susan Baker
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I have attached responses to your questions about Formats from Cindi Laurent, chair of the NBA Braille Formats/Textbook Committee. She provided them promptly and the delay has been all on me! Apologies.
--Joanna
Susan BakerParticipantI would not and can't cite you a reason why, except to say that the blank line would imply that the description did not apply to the illustration. The reason the source citation follows the caption is so that the association between the caption and source is not lost. In Section 9, the focus of the guidelines is on displayed materials and you would need a blank line following the last item in the displayed material which generally would be the source.
Susan BakerParticipantHello,
I'd like to ask a follow up question related to this example (Sample 6-1 on page 6-14). Rule 9.5.1d says a blank line always follows a source citation or permission to copy. So, if the caption comes first, the source citation comes next, and the transcriber's descriptive note comes next, do we need to leave a blank line between the source citation and the descriptive note, according to 9.5.1d?
Thank you,
SusanSusan BakerParticipantYou have answered your own question and found rules to support your decision. Good for you!
Susan BakerParticipantI think I found my answer! According to Rule XVIII, the Transcriber's Grouping Symbols are categorized as grouping symbols. Rule XIII section 80 states we need to use a level indicator (in this case, the baseline indicator) whenever our grouping symbols (the ending TN symbol) applies to a level other than the one currently in effect (my superscript degrees sign). So, it looks like I will need to put a baseline indicator after my degrees sign at the end of my key list since it is in the superscript position, before my ending TN symbol, since the TN symbol has to be on the baseline.
SusanSusan BakerParticipantI think you have made a pretty good suggestion. The bold face indicator would apply to either negative numbers or negative variables. Your tn would have to state that the unemphasized letters are black. Perhaps you could also specify that the letters are uppercase in print, which would allow you to simplify even more.
Susan BakerParticipantYou sure have put your time into this one! Thank you so much.
Susan BakerParticipantStop the presses! I've been corrected and set right by a REAL expert. I am told that the thing to do here is to bring 46 over the volume 2 after all, which I think was suggested in the first place.
End volume 1 at 45 (appropriate continuation page) and being volume 2 with 46-47.
Better?
--Joanna
Susan BakerParticipantI THINK I see the confusion, though. The reason why you don't have to account for this blank page is that it's the last one. There are no pages after it, so there's nothing to account for. But you have raised a very good point.
--Joanna
Susan BakerParticipantI'm sorry for the confusion, I used the wrong term. Did not really mean page change indicator, just new print page numbering (46) on new braille page up at the top right. Maybe my initial hesitation to do this from the get-go was that I was thinking when we had blank pages, we must account for them, and the way to do this was through combining our print page numbers. But, you have answered my question perfectly, and I now know this is not always necessary.
Susan BakerParticipantThank you very much!
Susan BakerParticipantI like your decision to use the new option of facing pages with a fold-out. I would not worry about the fact that the student will need to flip back and forth. I have seen many students read with two hands, left hand on the graphic and right hand reading the questions on the next page front underneath. No problem! It is more important that your key face the diagram.
The statement at the top of this page can just as well be formatted as a 3-1 narrative paragraph: "For questions 53-57, refer to the Luminosity and Temperature of Stars diagram below." Follow that paragraph with your notes, key, etc.
I think it is obvious that the questions follow the diagram--I see no reason to explain in a TN.
Susan BakerParticipantThank you for your prompt and helpful reply. That cleared up my confusion.
SusanSusan BakerParticipantYes, this is displayed material (set apart by "some means"). I would suggest inserting a transcriber's note that says "Think:" before each set. Even though only the first set shows solutions, the student should be given the same information the print reader has here, namely how many equations to think about. I would reproduce each set.
If you need a jump start, see the attached file.
Susan BakerParticipantThank you!
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