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ModeratorGood Morning Susan,
The example is very visual to see at a glance what is on each side. A series of braille equations (not spatial equation) is read from left to right regardless of margins. Making the margins offset wouldn't help the braille reader. So the quick answer is no, we do not follow the print format.
Have a great day!
Wendy
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ModeratorHello Grafton Braille Service Center.
Cell five is the standard starting point for displayed material in itemized material. Cell three is the runover position for itemized without sub items. It is important to be consistent in formatting.
The equation is a general fraction with the numerator and the denominator also being general fractions.
The general fraction opening and closing indicators are required for the whole equation. A second opening fraction indicator is required for the numerator, general fraction x/y, followed by a general fraction closing indicator. The same is used for the denominator, general fraction. The final braille symbol is the general fraction closing indicator which closes the whole general fraction.
I hope this clears up your questions.
I have attached the braille file of this example.
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ModeratorGood Morning,
We answered this directly but it is good to share here, others may have the same question.
See GTM 11.3. It is determined by whether or not grade one mode is already in effect. It specifies the prime sign in this rule. Don't confuse the rules for the double g (used only in the middle of a word) with the rules for the prime (even though the braille symbol is the same. See also the example on page 49 of GTM where it occurs with the cup and cap (grade one passage is used there)Take the symbol in context, which is math.wbenckhuysen
ModeratorGood Morning,
Sorry I did not respond sooner. I checked with a colleague working for our textbook agency, we both agree that you have transcribed this vector correctly.
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Abby,
It has been brought to my attention that I made a mistake. The capitalisation passage and terminator are used in your example. Standing alone is not the issue. I was so focused on the letters being spaced (standing alone) that I overlooked the capitalisation rule.
I hope I corrected this before your deadline.
Thank you for your understanding,
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Janice,
I think in this example I would use a transciber-defined shape indicator. See section 11.7 in the rulebook. Perhaps dots 4, 1246 (transciber-defined shape indicator) plus h (for heart). Include a transcriber's note explaining and list on the special symbols page.
Using the less than sign and number 3 doesn't represent a heart to the reader and would need to be explained.
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Rebecca,
Part of the frustration is having very few examples and information on formatting in the Technical Guidelines. In this case I would follow the Nemeth format for spatial arrangements found on pg. 184, 185 and 188 of the rulebook. One column of blank cells between the identifier and the left most symbol. Also one column of blank cells between the problems across the page.
On print page 23 the placement is correct from the examples I have seen to date.
I think if you can solve the problems with TNs (pg.68) that is fine and doesn't use so many cells for the reader.
This is all so new to us and hopefully it will become easier as we see examples. I am hoping there will be a rulebook published and not just Guidelines.
Thanks for your patience,
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Rebecca,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I was checking with a colleague.
Page 2, We agree on how you transcribed this using the square for the omission. Include a TN about the other numbers in a square.
Page 3, We would use transcriber defined print symbols for the "bullet" and "bullet within a circle". It would use less cells. Include a TN.
Page 4, Looks good as you have it using transcriber defined symbols. You may need to change them to third and fourth if you use first and second on page 3.
I hope I answered all your questions.
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Abby,
Remember that you do not need a grade one indicator for letters A, I and O.
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ModeratorHi Abby,
You are correct.
Wendy
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ModeratorHi Rebecca,
The Line of separation is placed under the digits only with the sign of operation outside EXCEPT for a single digit spatial operations using the numeric passage indicator. There is an example in Guidelines for Technical Material on page 20. CNIB (Canadian National Institute for the Blind) has told me that it is a format issue and that hasn't been completely worked out yet.
On page one you could use the numeric passage indicator and terminator so you wouldn't have to include the numeric indicator throughout the exercise. In this case you would include the separation line under the sign of operation.
I will look at the following pages and get back to you ASAP.
Wendy
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